Genuine Dictatorship??

No, Obama cannot declare himself dictator. Obama did not cancel the elections. There will not be rioting in the streets. There will not be food shortages. There will not be hyper-inflation.

Stop listening to conservative talk radio. It will enhance your health.

 

I admit I am surprised he did not go farther today with the executive orders.


Those conservative media folks are the only ones offering anything close to the truth compared to the sellouts at msnbc and cnn.

We cannot maintain this economic condition without an economic collapse, food shortages and hyper-inflation. It's coming. It is not an "if" it is only a matter of "when". That would likely mean riots, and would be a plausible excuse for Obama (or the enxt president) to declare martial law.

I don't expect agreement from the liberal water carriers on BB. I do hope that you will be honest enough to admit the possibility as viable though.

 

I'm not a liberal water carrier. I am a fiscal and moral conservative. The possibility of rioting in the streets, food shortages and hyper inflation is remote. It is not a matter of "when" it is a matter of a remote possibility. For Christians to go around saying this sort of thing is going to happen under Obama is damaging to your witness and frankly, a bit tin-foil hattish.

 

Wow, seriously?

You can't be honest about your liberal streak and you think being honest about a very real economic danger damages my witness and is tin-foil hattish?

 

Yes, seriously. How long have I been hearing about rioting in the streets, food shortages, and hyper-inflation? About 40 years. Hasn't happened yet, don't see why it would happen any time soon.

Hyper inflation occurs when a country can no longer sell its debt. Based on the bid to cover ratio of almost 3.0, the US is having no problem selling Treasury notes and Treasury bills. I know right wing survival nuts like to say that "we're printing so much money it will result in crushing inflation", yet people and countries are lining up to buy our debt. Furthermore the money that the Fed has "printed" which is really created when they buy bonds from banks, is sitting in these banks not being loaned out. You can 'print' $1 trillion and bury it in a hole in the ground but it will not cause inflation because it's not being used. Why do you think there are quantitative easing programs? Because the Fed is trying to get people to borrow and spend money to stimulate the economy but banks are playing with tight credit requirements, not making loans, and people are still shell-shocked by the housing downturn.

We have the most efficient farming technology on the planet. Barring a nationwide drought--and you likely don't buy into global warming--why would there be a food shortage? Rioting in the streets hasn't happened since the late 60's when civil rights for minorities and Vietnam protestors were hot topics. I see no corollary today.

 

As near as we have come to a dictator was FDR in my life time.

 

The Greeks and Spaniards all thought that too.

 

As seen to-day the President did not issue any executive order to ban assault weapons or high-capacity magazines, instead as you noted he used it to clarify or further existing laws. And I agree with you that banning assault weapons would be unconstitutional (and ineffective to boot). This does not preclude, however, other elements of the President's agenda such as expanding background checks.

 

If he is creating a law or expanding the scope of any law then he is legislating and it is unconstitutional.

 

what existing gun laws have been clarified or furthered ? I am not aware of any congress-enacted gun laws.
In the absence of such, then he is legislating, not executing and implementing.

 

Obama is setting up a system to label and list gun owners as dysfunctional and therefore no longer "qualified" to own or posses firearms. Rahm Emanuel has said if you are the "no fly" list you can't buy a gun. Bottom line if you are on a "list" you will not be allowed to own or posses firearms.

See below this came out in 2009. This is what the government thought of us back then. This is just one of many such police reports.

WASHINGTON – A newly unclassified Department of Homeland Security report warns against the possibility of violence by unnamed “right-wing extremists” concerned about illegal immigration, increasing federal power, restrictions on firearms, abortion and the loss of U.S. sovereignty and singles out returning war veterans as particular threats. [1]

What will get you on a "list"?

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]According to the MIAC report, if you oppose any of the following, you could qualify for being profiled as a potential dangerous "militia member":[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]
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[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]The United Nations
The New World Order
Gun Control
The violation of Posse Comitatus
The Federal Reserve
The Income Tax
The Ammunition and Accountability Act
A possible Constitutional Convention
The North American Union
Universal Service Program
Radio Frequency Identification (RFID)
Abortion
Illegal Immigration [2][/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]The Feds already monitor virtually every phone call, email, and public speech in the country. How long before these secret police reports will be used as justification to arrest and incarcerate people because of their ideas and opinions, labeling them as a "threat" or as "dangerous" to society?[/FONT] [3]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]What we see happening today is not something new.[/FONT] It's not because of "gun violence" that is merely the justification.

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Obama is following up on a long line of usurpation's that started in 1913 with the passage of the Federal Reserve Act . What we are seeing today is the last nails being driven in the coffin of the republic.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]
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[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]First the "listing" then the round up.

What we are witnessing today is the "conspiracy theory" most of you thought was the craziest idea you ever heard in your lives coming to fruition right before your eyes[/FONT]. It's time to wake up.
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No need to fill out a questionnaire when the government starts making up lists of who's naughty and who's nice. And according to the government anyone who questions government or it's policies is going to be put on the naughty list.

First the list then the round up. One always follows the other.

 

Is back then somehow different than now?

 

Only in that instead of being "over there" it is coming here.

 

Yes, we are on the edge of a dictatorship. There has been discussion as of late of executive orders for the gun control issue, and an executive order for the debt ceiling. One thing playing right into Obama's hands is an inept Congress that cannot govern. In the arena of public opinion, Obama has danced circles around the Republicans since the election, and probably before.

 

We can't use ignorance as an excuse today though. We have the warnings of our founders and the examples of history that back them up.

 

Obama has not issued Executive Orders at the rate of his predecessors, both Democratic and Republican. You may disagree with him, but the duly elected President of the United States he is. Over half the voters cast their ballots for him, and he got the requisite number of electoral votes. Hardly a dictator. He will be retired in 4 years, so quitcherbellyachin'. This is how our republic works. We survived Dubya...you'll manage to live through the Obama years.