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Discussion in 'News / Current Events' started by Crabtownboy, Feb 21, 2013.
What are these Georgia folk putting in their smokes?
Radio & TV Stations and Newspapers would hate that! Look at how much advertising would be lost.
Also that would end another round of robo calls at election time.
Are you ready to give up your vote?
From the article:
[state legislatures would choose Senators for their state, not citizens by direct election]
The 17th Amendment was adopted out of concern for state-level corruption influencing Senate elections, which Cooke said would not be the case now.
HA HA HA HA HA AHAHA HA HA HA HA!!
Not only is this a bad idea, I don't think it has any chance of becoming law.
Neal Boortz started this. Way to go Talk Master!!!:laugh:
Actually, my rights are better protected. The Senate is to represent the state governments. The House is to represent the people. (Which is why all revenue bills should originate in the House, not the Senate.)
What this would mean is that the people of a state are better represented in the senate, as the makeup of the state legislatures perfectly reflects the political mind of the the state as a whole.
I actually think the Georgia Republicans have the right idea. This is why Boortz, a Libertarian, brought up the idea back in 2004.
Repeal the 17th Amendment
The unique powers of the Senate are almost all related to Federal issues.
Power to ratify treaties.
Power to try cases of impeachments of federal officers.
Power to approve Presidential appointments of federal officials.
Power to select the Vice President in case there is no Electoral College majority.
There is no representation of states' interest involved in these unique powers, so why should the states decide the Senator?
At issue is not the unique powers, but the powers that conservatives feel should be decided by states.
The House represents the people's interest. The Senate was supposed to represent the State's interest. They were supposed to be going to DC to do what was best for the STATE. That has changed. The Founders had the state legislatures appointing the Senate reps for good reason.
Now the Senate is full of folks who go against what their states want in favor of what the federal government wants.
When this happens vote them out of office and replace them with someone who will vote the state's interest.
Oh no! No, no, no, no. Better to change the constitution. :BangHead:
Bout time, a piece of the Constitution & Bill of Rights is returned to the "balance of powers" and states rights as originally designed.
The popular vote is represented in the House of Representatives.
States rights was represented by the two Senators selected by state government.
Popular vote kicked out those who did not represent the majority of the view of the people of their individual districts.
State government used to be able to kick out those who did not defend states rights in accordance with the wishes of the state.
Now the push is to kill the electorial college so that 2 of the three branches are all elected by direct popular vote.
"Democracy" at work in a REPUBLIC. :BangHead:
Only the legislature can do that. The general populations don't know the state's interest as a whole. They choose representatives for their districts.
And especially in rural states, the effect now is that one or two metropolitan areas are simply choosing two extra representatives for themselves and call them senators, and most of them, like you, aren't interested in the state's interest. They're interested in themselves.
They changed it to get the 17th Amendment. Change it back. :laugh:
I agree with the Ga. Republicans.
Side note, I recall when Neal was the liberal host on ring radio years ago. I believe Neal goes where the money is for him, I could be wrong.
As I stated before, I would like to do away with the popular election of US Senators.
However, I would like to put a twist on this discussion.
One of the Senators should be the LT Governer of his State or Commonwealth -
The LT. Gov. is the most powerful office in the state of Texas. He needs to stay at home. And making him a Senator would be vesting one man with far too much power.