Getting to Know the NIV Translators

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  1. R. J.

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    Name / Theological Seminary / Church

    Milton C. Fisher / Reformed Episcopal / Reformed Episcopal
    Fred C. Kuehner Reformed Episcopal Reformed Episcopal
    Jack P. Lewis Harding Grad School of Religion Church of Christ
    Francis Foulkes Bible College of New Zealand Church of England
    F. Derek Kidner Tyndale House, England Church of England
    David John Williams Ridley College, Australia Church of England
    Y. R. Kindberg International Bible Society Christian and Missionary Alliance
    G. Henry Waterman Wheaton College Christian and Missionary Alliance
    Robert P. Roth Northwestern Lutheran Lutheran
    Mark E. Hillmer Northwestern Lutheran Lutheran, Missouri Synod
    Robert D. Preus Concordia, Ft. Wayne Lutheran, Missouri Synod
    John C. Jeske Wisconsin Lutheran Lutheran, Wisconsin Evangelical Synod
    Kenneth L. Barker Capital Bible Evangelical Free
    Gleason L. Archer, Jr. Trinity Evangelical Divinity Evangelical Free
    Walter C. Kaiser Trinity Evangelical Divinity Evangelical Free
    Kenneth S. Kantzer Trinity Evangelical Divinity Evangelical Free
    Thomas E. McComiskey Trinity Evangelical Divinity Evangelical Free
    Paul E. Leonard Trinity Evangelical Divinity Brethren
    Murray J. Harris Trinity Evangelical Divinity Open Brethren
    Walter L. Liefeld Trinity Evangelical Divinity Plymouth Brethren
    Gerald F. Hawthorne Wheaton College Plymouth Brethren
    William J. Martin Regent College, Vancouver Christian Brethren
    Alan R. Millard University of Liverpool, England Christian Brethren
    John J. Davis Grace Grace Brethren
    Homer A. Kent Grace Grace Brethren
    D. Edmond Hiebert Mennonite Brethren Biblical Mennonite Brethren
    G. Irvin Lehman Eastern Mennonite College Mennonite
    J. C. Wenger Goshen Biblical Mennonite
    David Engelhard Calvin Christian Reformed
    John H. Stek Calvin Christian Reformed
    Marten H. Woudstra Calvin Christian Reformed
    William Hendriksen Boca Raton, Florida Christian Reformed
    Edwin H. Palmer NIV Translation Committee Christian Reformed
    Gerard Van Gronigen Reformed Christian Reformed
    Stephen W. Paine Houghton College Wesleyan Methodist
    Philip S. Clapp Western Evangelical United Methodist
    Roy E. Hayden Oral Roberts University United Methodist
    John N. Oswalt Asbury United Methodist
    Harvey J.S. Blaney Asbury Nazarene
    Ralph Earle Nazarene Nazarene
    J. Kenneth Grider Nazarene Nazarene
    Allan A. MacRae Biblical School of Theology Bible Presbyterian
    Everett F. Harrison Fuller United Presbyterian
    Frederick W. Bush Fuller Presbyterian
    Edmund Clowney Westminster Presbyterian
    John R. Werner International Linuistics Center Reformed Presbyterian
    R. Laird Harris Covenant Reformed Presbyterian
    W. Harold Mare Covenant Reformed Presbyterian
    J. Barton Payne Covenant Reformed Presbyterian
    Harold C. Stigers Covenant Reformed Presbyterian
    Wilber B. Wallis Covenant Reformed Presbyterian
    Charles F. Pfeiffer Central Michigan University Reformed Presbyterian
    Raymond B. Dillard Westminster Orthodox Presbyterian
    Richard B. Gaffin, Jr. Westminster Orthodox Presbyterian
    Burton L. Goddard Gordon-Conwell Orthodox Presbyterian
    Stephen M. Reynolds Gordon-Conwell Orthodox Presbyterian
    Roger Nicole Gordon-Conwell American Baptist
    Robert L. Alden Conservative Baptist Conservative Baptist
    Donald W. Burdick Conservative Baptist Conservative Baptist
    Ralph R. Covell Conservative Baptist Conservative Baptist
    Earl S. Kalland Conservative Baptist Conservative Baptist
    Marvin R. Wilson Gordon College Conservative Baptist
    E. Leslie Carlson Southwestern Baptist Southern Baptist
    F. B. Huey Southwestern Baptist Southern Baptist
    Marvin E. Tate Southern Baptist Southern Baptist
    Larry L. Walker Mid-America Baptist Southern Baptist
    Louis Goldberg Moody Bible Institute Baptist
    Arthur H. Lewis Bethel College Baptist
    Richard N. Longenecker Wycliffe College Baptist
    Charles C. Ryrie Dallas Baptist
    Bruce K. Waltke Regent College, Vancouver Baptist
    Walter W. Wessel Bethel Baptist
    Ronald Youngblood Bethel Baptist
    Leon J. Wood Grand Rapids Baptist Bible Baptist
    S. Lewis Johnson Dallas, Texas Independent
    Donald R. Glenn Dallas Independent
    Herbert M. Wolf Wheaton College Grad. School Independent
    Clarence B. Hale Wheaton College No church affiliation given
    Merrill C. Tenney Wheaton College No church affiliation given
    Glenn W. Barker Fuller No church affiliation given
    James R. Battenfield Grace No church affiliation given
    S. Herbert Bess Grace No church affiliation given
    W. Gordon Brown Central Baptist Seminary, Toronto No church affiliation given
    Wilber T. Dayton Wesley Biblical Seminary No church affiliation given
    Lewis A. Foster Cincinnati Bible Seminary No church affiliation given
    Wesley L. Gerig Fort Wayne Bible College No church affiliation given
    David Gooding The Queens College, Ireland No church affiliation given
    Roland K. Harrison Wycliffe College, Toronto No church affiliation given
    Simon Kistemaker Reformed No church affiliation given
    Jack B. Scott Reformed No church affiliation given
    Meredith G. Kline Gordon-Conwell No church affiliation given
    J. Ramsey Michaels Gordon-Conwell No church affiliation given
    Elmer B. Smick Gordon-Conwell No church affiliation given
    William L. Lane Western Kentucky University No church affiliation given
    Robert Mounce Western Kentucky University No church affiliation given
    G. Herbert Livingston Asbury No church affiliation given
    Donald H. Madvig Bethel No church affiliation given
    Leon Morris Ridley College, Australia No church affiliation given
    Rowland Ward Ulvestone, Australia No church affiliation given
    Francis Steele Upper Darby, Pennsylvania No church affiliation given
    G. Aiken Taylor Ashville, North Carolina No church affiliation given
    William C. Williams Southern California College No church affiliation given
    Donald J. Wiseman University of London, England No church affiliation given
    John M. Zinkand Dordt College No church affiliation given
     
  2. R. J.

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    I apologize for the poor format. I am also getting editing time outs when I try to improve on the format.

    The purpose of the topic is to convey the seminary and denomination of the NIV translators. This should give the reader an idea of the ecumenical nature of the translation team.
     
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    This should give the reader an idea of the ecumenical nature of the translation team.

    Yeah, good thing they weren't all Anglicans or something like that!
     
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    Yeah, I wonder how they ever did a translation without Anglican help and their theology?
     
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    Me too. It's not like the translation team reads like a who's who of conservative scholarship, or anything.
     
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    Interestingly, six of the current 15 members of the NIV Committee on Bible Translation are Baptists of one stripe or another.

    (The original list posted includes anyone who was involved in the translation process, no matter how minor.)
     
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    What about that woman pervert?
     
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    She wasn't one of the translators.

    I also hear that the NIV is
    transported by the same parcel delivery
    system that delivers porn [​IMG]
     
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    Let me think about this several Baptist on the above list. Evangelical Free which have beliefs very similar to that of Baptist ( www.efca.org ).
    EFCA-very sound doctrinally.

    Christian and Missionary Alliance-beliefs a little mixed up but not on Salvation.

    Basically you just helped proved one of the reasons the KJV is not as good as MV's. The Anglican Church set the rules for translation of the KJV. I would rather read a Bible that at least had some Baptist on the Translation Committee.

    1cross+3nails=4given
     
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    If you trust the Ecumenical and apostate days with a melting pot of beliefs of the translators, and the corrupt texts that underline them in these perilous times, go right ahead. I will stay with the Holy Bible of this generation, and generations past, that God has put his stamp of approval on. God has told us we should not yolk ourselves with those who are walking disorderly. We are commanded to separate ourselves from them. This melting pot of beliefs, coming together to translate God's Holy words, is in essence direct disobediance to God's commands, and that alone should speak volumes that it can not be trusted.


    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
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    I agree with Michelle, we are much better off trusting a bunch of church government (Church of England) officials to translate our Bible.
     
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    C4K, Shouldn't that read government church officials? ;)
     
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    Ah yup - if I go back and edit it now do you think anyone will notice ;) ?
     
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    So you are saying that Anglicans (who are pedobaptists) will do a better job than those listed as the translators of the NIV? It seems that you have cast aside your Baptist roots and what happened to the Anabaptists as they proclaimed their faith. Why do you think they were called Anabaptists? Remember they opposed the Anglican religious leaders in many places and their pedobaptist theology.

    But if you think Baptists are always honest just look up the Baptist Foundation of Arizona in the year 1999. People are still people. Just read the gospels and see what it says about wheat and chaff. Read what it says about those who call Him Lord, Lord.

    Times have not changed at all since the book of James in 49 A.D., the letters Paul wrote and especially since the days of Jesus. And yes, I forgot since the days of Noah too.
     
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    Michelle: "If you trust the Ecumenical and apostate days with a melting pot of beliefs of the translators"

    Perhaps some clarification should be made regarding the semantics of the term "ecumenical", since this term is normally used to indicate people from *all* denominations, holding *all kinds* of diverse beliefs or non-beliefs, ranging from extreme liberal to moderately conservative (the "real" conservatives generally will not participate in the modern ecumenical movement).

    To have been truly "ecumenical," the NIV would have had to included Roman Catholics, Episcopalians, Greek and Russian Orthodox, Episcopalian, Anglican, etc. The NIV did no do that, but required certain affirmations regarding doctrinal orthodoxy and scriptural inerrancy which the other groups (liberals as well as non-inerrantists) could not accept.

    So the NIV is no more "ecumenical" in the normally understood sense than is the NKJV or HSCB, all of which required participating translators to hold orthodox confessional beliefs coupled with a high view of inerrancy. The better term to describe the committees of the NIV, NKJV, HCSB would be "trans-denominational conservative inerrantists".
     
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    Amen Brother gb93433 -- Preach it! [​IMG]
     
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    LOL! Ransom, you bad, bad Canadian! ;) Thanks for the laugh! [​IMG]

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    LOL! Thanks for that laugh! Strange that they didn't want a "Popish" influence, but they went straight for the "Pope" head of the Church of England...ol' King James! :eek: Uh, er, duh....well, you know! :rolleyes:

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    &lt;King James' name corrected&gt;

    [ September 19, 2004, 01:17 AM: Message edited by: C4K ]
     
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    This list does not include their qualifications, if you are going to have a good laugh about the issue then you should post their qualifications and the KJV translators before making clever remarks.
    In Christ,
    KJVBibleThumper
     

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