God and TIME

I agree that He didn't have to look to see, He sees all so why would He have to look. The most important is He is there. He saw you while you were in your mother's womb and He sees your death. Again, I have thought about it and He is everlasting to everlasting. The Beginning and the End.

 

Hope you really mean that. We are made to wonder at times.

 

I agree with both James. The ability to believe certainly was willed of God.

He made the Light. There are hundreds like the following:

Gen 1:4And God saw the light, that [it was] good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

 

Timeless God

I leave it up to you. Just read the Scriptures and make up your own mind!

Psalms, psalm 90
1: LORD, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations.
2: Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
3: Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men.
4: For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
5: Thou carriest them away as with a flood; they are as a sleep: in the morning they are like grass which groweth up.
6: In the morning it flourisheth, and groweth up; in the evening it is cut down, and withereth.
7: For we are consumed by thine anger, and by thy wrath are we troubled.
8: Thou hast set our iniquities before thee, our secret sins in the light of thy countenance.
9: For all our days are passed away in thy wrath: we spend our years as a tale that is told.

John 6:
62: What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
63: It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
64: But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. (Especially read this part)!!!!!
65: And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.


Apparently the Father gave them to Him that did "believe", for he knew those from the beginning who didn’t believe so He must of known from the beginning who did "believe". It is amazing how we overlook Scriptures sometimes.

Now, a "timeless God".

Philippians, chapter 3
21: Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
If we will have a body like His and we will be "timeless" then, so He must be timeless too. But we go a little farther.

Revelation, chapter 10
"1": And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:

"2": And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,

"3": And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.

"4": And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.

"5": And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,

"6": And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

Now, some may argue now that He is not a "timeless" God but I don’t think they will disagree that He will be "timeless" then.

Hebr: 13
8: Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
9: Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.


If all of us will be like unto the Lord and all will be "timeless" then and He changes not then He must be timeless now and has always been timeless if he don't change.

HE IS OMNIPRESENCE AND INFINITE. Peace,

 

Augustine was Roman Catholic. Calvin was raised Roman Catholic. Now it's starting to make sense. :laugh:

 

Blammo,
Do you have any pics of Calvin in a beenie cap swinging an incense burner by a rope?

 

No, I'm not sure they had many cameras back then. I'll "google" it. :smilewinkgrin:

 

Here he is talking about time being to men and not Him and "you rest your case" All your answers are like that, God is timeless Himself but made time for man and can either work in time or out but He Himself is "timeless" now, has always been and will always be "timeless. I see no reason to respond to non Scriptural answers that don't make no sense. I would like to answer you but it all like the follow:

everlasting = infinite (166. aionios ahee-o'-nee-os from 165; perpetual (also used of past time, or past and future as well):--eternal, for ever, everlasting, world (began).)
Psalms 90;
Talking to a lost and backsliding people and the death of man. Talking about "Time is nothing to Him" and you say it is Calvinistic when you been jumping all over the place trying to find a way around a "timeless" God.

Here you talk about this Scripture being about the Father given them to Christ when the greatest meaning of the Scripture is the Father only gave them who "believed". You miss the whole point that the Father "foresaw" who would believe and who would not. Your understanding of the Scriptures is lacking James!

Here you admit that He knew who believed and who believed not but as a true Calvinist you had to add to the Scripture "God caused it" when before you posted in bold and large type you would never change a scripture.
(Your quote: I'm keeping the Bible intact. I'm not going to change words like you do. I'm going to keep it is context. I'm not going to "keep quiet". I will preach the Word..like it or not.

Pressing on till He Comes..no matter if Bob wants me gone, quit or anything else you post.
In Christ...James) and then when convenient for you then you put in whatever you need.
comical,

So here you finally admit that God does indeed work outside of time. Make up your mind James and live by what you said about not adding or taking away from the Scriptures.

 

How are you "sure"? This statement alone confines God to the very present...man's present...man's time. I never thought in a million years that I, a non calvinist, could EVER believe God was more sovereign than a calvinist

 

Waste of time, this answer to my post make no sense at all.

Go back and read my post again James and try to open your mind up this time. peace