God's Plan For The Ages

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    I'm going to post a series of 8 charts, with text explaining each, all aren't finished at the present. These were drawn by me from my study of the Bible.

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    Isaiah forty six ten, tells us that God has declared the end from the beginning.

    Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times, the things that are not yet done.

    If we look at the pattern of days described for the world’s beginning, we find the same pattern of days described for the world’s end, another Six days of work, and another seventh Day of rest, most often referred to as the Millennial reign,
    since each day represents, a thousand years.


    Second Peter, three, eight,
    But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing,
    that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

    The repetition of patterns is explained in the following verse.


    Ecclesiastes 1 9,
    The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be, and that which is done, is that which shall be done, and there is no new thing, under the sun.

    In the creation days, the sun, moon and stars wasn’t created until the fourth day,
    in the scriptures, the sun is the symbol representing Jesus,
    the Moon represents, any assembly of God’s people, Jews or Gentiles,
    and the stars represents the children of God.


    In the same day the natural light, the sun, came into the world, the spiritual light, Jesus, also came into the world.


    According to Bible chronology,
    from Adam until Abraham was nineteen hundred and forty eight years,
    and from Abraham until Jesus was another two thousand years,
    making Jesus born and crucified in the evening of the fourth day.

    When Jesus paid the wages of sin, reconciling man back to god, he in effect created the moon, or Church, and stars, the children of God.


    Moses’s passover lamb, which foreshadowed Jesus,
    was chosen on the tenth day and held back until the fourteenth.

    Exodus twelve, three,
    Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying,
    In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb.

    And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month, and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.

    Jesus was also chosen before the foundation of the world, and held back four days until the evening of the fourth day.

    first Peter 1 20,
    Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you.

    The seventh day of rest, or Millennial reign,
    is the physical Kingdom promised to Israel in the old testament,

    Only the saved enter that day of rest.


    The fourth chapter of Hebrews, verses four through eleven, speaks of this future seventh day of rest.

    For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise,
    And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
    Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in, because of unbelief.

    For if Jesus had given them rest,
    then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

    There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

    Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest,
    lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

    God said to Adam.
    But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it,
    for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
    Genesis two, seventeen.

    Adam lived nine hundred and thirty years, after he sinned, but nevertheless died, in the day, he sinned, for a day with God is a thousand years.

    No person has lived a thousand years on earth since sin entered, all have died, in the day, they sinned.


    However, when we will live and reign with Jesus for the thousand years,
    a whole day, and do not die,
    it will prove Jesus removed all our sins.

    Sin placed a time limit not only on the life of man but also on the planet earth, a time limit in which we are living at the very end.

    When God told Israel,
    Six days thou shalt do thy work, and on the seventh day thou shalt rest:
    Exodus twenty three, twelve.

    God literally meant,
    time would last six thousand years, and the seventh thousand year, would be the day of rest or Millennial reign.

    Ro 9:28
    because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.

    Ezekiel 44 1,
    Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary which looketh toward the east; and it was shut.
    Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel,
    hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut.


    Ezekiel 46 1,
    Thus saith the Lord GOD;
    The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened,
    and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.

    The chart shows an eighth day which isn’t found in the original creation days,

    but where is this day found in scripture.

    The eighth day in scripture is known as a day of new beginnings.
    When Adam sinned, he ended the seventh day, creating the eighth day, the beginning of sin.

    Jesus was also resurrected on the eighth day, or the first day of the week, making it the eighth day.

    Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week,
    Mark sixteen, nine.

    After the seventh day, or millennial reign, has ended, and in the eighth day, Satan is loosed for a little season, then the great white throne Judgment.


    From the scripture we find that,
    in the eighth day,
    sin and death entered the world,
    Jesus removed it for believers,
    and God will judge the unbelievers,
    all in the eighth day.

    Since the Eighth day isn’t found in the original creation days, we can safely say, that sin wasn’t predestined.

    All six days were described as having a “morning and evening,” a beginning and end, except the seventh day.

    God, in his foreknowledge, knew of Sin entering,
    however, did not predestine that sin.
     
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    The Seven Days

    This chart shows how the eight days, are broken down into different dispensations.

    From the first Adam until Abraham, Father of the nation of Israel, was nineteen hundred and forty eight years, and, from the second Adam, Jesus,
    until Israel’s restoration as a nation was also,
    nineteen hundred and forty eight years.

    Some question the exact year Jesus was born,
    but based on this information, I’d say our calendar is also exact,
    to the year.

    From Abraham until Jesus came,
    God led Israel using the law and prophets, signs and wonders, Israel did not have an indwelling comforter, or Holy Ghost.

    Ecclesiastics 4 1,
    So I returned, and considered all the oppressions that are done under the sun:
    and behold the tears of such as were oppressed, and they had no comforter;
    and on the side of their oppressors there was power; but they had no comforter.

    With the beginning of Jesus’s ministry,
    the law and prophets system of leadership ended.

    Hebrews one, one,
    God, who at sundry times and in divers manners
    spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
    Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son.

    Luke sixteen, sixteen,
    The law and the prophets were until John,
    since that time the kingdom of God is preached.

    Leadership of the church begun with Jesus and the comforter, or Holy Ghost, which is also the voice of Jesus.

    John 14 26,
    But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things.

    John 10 27,
    My sheep hear my voice.

    The rapture will mark the end of Jesus’s ministry, the Last trump of the voice of the Holy Ghost, or Comforter, will be the calling of Jesus for the dead and living to meet him in the air,

    1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

    After the rapture, Israel will then return under the leadership of the law and prophets during the Tribulation period

    Without signs and wonders, Israel won’t believe, Jews require a sign.

    John 4 48,
    Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

    first Corinthians 1:22,
    For the Jews require a sign.

    However, Jesus said he would not give any signs, save the sign of Jonas.

    Luke 11 29,
    And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say,
    This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.

    Jonah was a prophet from Galilee who after three days in the whale went and preach to the Gentiles at Nineveh, this foreshadowed Jesus,
    who also was from Galilee, and spend three days in the tomb, then preached the gospel to the Gentiles,

    however the Jews claimed no prophet came from Galilee according to the scriptures.

    John 7 52,
    They answered and said unto him, Art thou also of Galilee? Search, and look: for out of Galilee arise no prophet.


    Looking at the chart, we can see that many of the things, Jesus said and done during his ministry also points to prophecies.

    Jesus deliberately waited until the fourth day,
    before resurrecting Lazarus, foreshadowing his appearance, in the fourth day, telling Mary and Martha,
    I am the resurrection.

    John 11 1,
    Now a certain man was sick, named Lazarus.
    When he had heard therefore that he was sick,
    he abode two days still in the same place where he was.

    Then when Jesus came he found that he had lain in the grave four days already.

    Jesus said, Take ye away the stone. Martha, the sister of him that was dead, saith unto him. Lord, by this time he stinketh: for he hath been dead four days. Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection.

    The charts shows that Jesus will spend two days,
    the 5th and 6th, with the Gentile church,

    this was foreshadowed by the two days,
    Jesus spend with the Samaritan woman at the well,
    the Gentile woman represents the church, which is the bride of Christ, and the gospel being preached to the Gentiles.

    John 3 29,
    He that hath the bride is the bridegroom.

    John 4 9,
    Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.

    John 4 40,
    So when the Samaritans were come unto him,
    they besought him that he would tarry with them
    and he abode there, two days.
    And many more believed because of his own word.

    As with the Samaritans, the church believes by Faith, or, Because of his words, and without signs and wonders.

    Jesus and the church was a mystery not revealed to Israel, and since Israel won’t believe without signs, they are blinded these two days until Jesus is finished with the Gentiles, the church rapture.

    Ephesians 5 32,
    This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

    Romans and Hosea, both tell of these two days.

    Romans 11 25,
    For I would not, brethren,
    that ye should be ignorant of this mystery,
    lest ye should be wise in your own conceits,
    that blindness in part is happened to Israel,
    until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

    Hosea 6 2,
    After two days will he revive us:
    in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

    In the parable of the Good Samaritian,
    he only paid the inn keeper two pence for two days, indicating he would be back on the third day.

    Luke 10 35,
    And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.

    The Tribulations period, is the last week of Daniel’s 70 week prophecy for Israel,
    it occurs at the end of the six days.

    Daniel 9 24,
    Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people
    and upon thy holy city.

    The two days of Jesus’s ministry is the GAP between the 69th and 70th week of Daniel’s prophecy.

    During the tribulation period, Moses and Elijah, the two witnesses, will return, along with the signs and wonders.

    Jesus’s physical return will end the tribulation and is the first resurrection.

    The seventh day, or Millennial reign, is the physical Kingdom promised to the Jews in the Old testament, and will be a combination of resurrected old and new testament Saint, plus those martyred during the tribulations, all reigning together with Jesus.

    A small number of people will physically survive the tribulations to repopulate the earth during Millennial reign.

    Satan is bound up during this time period.

    Revelations 20 2,
    And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years.

    Revelations 20 4,
    And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them,
    and judgment was given unto them, and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

    Zec 8:3 Thus saith the LORD; I am returned unto Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth; and the mountain of the LORD of hosts the holy mountain. (returned=prior visit)

    Zec 8:5 And the streets of the city shall be full of boys and girls playing in the streets thereof.

    Hab 2:14 For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

    After the seventh day, and in the eighth day,
    Satan is loosed for a little season, in which Gog and magog attack Jerusalem, fire comes down from heaven and destroys them, then the Great white throne judgment takes place.

    Revelations 20 7,
    And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations, which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city, and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

    Revelations 20 11,
    And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away, and there was found no place for them.

    After the great white throne judgment, the earth is burned,

    second Peter 3 12,
    Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat.

    a new heaven and new earth are then created.

    Revelations 21 1,
    And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away.

    the new city of Jerusalem will descend from heaven.

    And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem,
    coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

    only the saved will populate the new earth

    And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

    God, in the form of Jesus, will live with us, and be the “light” (Sun) of that world.

    Re 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

    Matthew 1 23,
    Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is,
    God with us.
     
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    FEAST DAYS
    Now, let’s take a look at the Feast days given in Leviticus, chapter 23.

    These feast days and rituals associated with each, foreshadow events throughout the New Testament, however, I’m only going to highlight those rituals most easily seen and
    understood.

    let’s examine the correlation between the feasts and these events.

    The passover.

    It occurred on the fourteenth day of the month.

    Leviticus 23 5.
    In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.

    Exodus 12 3.
    Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house:

    And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.

    This lamb foreshadowed Jesus, the lamb of God, chosen and held back four days, crucified for the sins of the world.

    John 1 29, The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

    First Corinthians 5 7,
    For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

    1Pe 1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

    It should be noted that the blood of the passover lamb, only protected the firstborn or firstfruit, we will be referring back to this later.

    Exodus 12 29,
    And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.

    The feast of Unleavened Bread.

    Leviticus 23 6.
    And on the fifteenth day of the same month,
    is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD:
    And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread;

    By crucifying his body to pay the wages of our sin, Jesus’s body became the bread that sustains our spiritual life,

    leaven represents sin, unleavened is sinless.

    John 6 35, And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life:
    John 6 54, Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life;


    The Feast of Firstfruit.

    Leviticus 23 10.
    Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:

    And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the Sabbath the priest shall wave it.

    Jesus was crucified on the fourteenth, the following day being the Sabbath, and the morrow after the Sabbath, the eighth day, or the third day.

    Jesus was that sheaf of firstfruit waved before the lord.

    John 12 24, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
    Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

    Mark 16 9.
    Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, (Eighth day)

    Jesus was the first resurrected into eternal life.

    Feast of weeks,

    Leviticus 23 15.
    And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the Sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven Sabbaths shall be complete:

    Even unto the morrow after the seventh Sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.

    Fifty days after Jesus’s resurrection, the holy ghost descended.

    Acts 2 1.
    And when the day of Pentecost was fully come,
    they were all with one accord in one place.

    And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

    And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost,


    The Feast of trumpets.

    Leviticus 23 24,
    Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a Sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.

    This feast corresponds to the rapture.

    first Thessolonians 4 16,
    For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and, with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    This feast marks the end of the harvest,
    and the beginning of a new year.

    However, notice that everything in the fields was not to be harvested.

    Leviticus 23 22.
    And when ye reap the harvest of your land,
    thou shalt not make clean riddance of the corners of thy field when thou reapest, neither shalt thou gather any gleaning of thy harvest: thou shalt leave them unto the poor, and to the stranger: I am the LORD your God.

    Jesus’s Reaping of the church in the rapture
    doesn’t mean that more will not be harvested or saved during the tribulations.

    Since the Jewish calendar isn’t exact to the phases of the moon, the start of the new year doesn’t officially begin until two witnesses, bear witness to the sanhedren of the new moon, no one knows the exact day and hour this will occur from year to year.

    Matthew 24 36,
    But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    Trumpets were blown during the feast of trumpets and the day of atonement, the day of atonement trumpet is known as the last trumpet.


    Day of atonement.

    The passover and day of atonement were two feast in which a blood sacrifice was required.

    Leviticus 23 27.
    Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.

    And ye shall do no work in that same day: for it is a day of atonement, to make an atonement for you before the LORD your God.

    For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.

    Leviticus 16 6,
    And Aaron shall offer his bullock of the sin offering, which is for himself, and make an atonement for himself, and for his house.
    And he shall take the two goats, and present them before the LORD at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.

    And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the LORD, and the other lot for the scapegoat.

    Then shall he kill the goat of the sin offering, that is for the people, and bring his blood within the vail, and do with that blood as he did with the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it upon the mercy seat, and before the mercy seat:

    And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:

    And the goat shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land not inhabited: and he shall let go the goat in the wilderness.

    Jesus is represented as the Scapegoat in this feast.

    The goat killed represents the body of flesh.

    The church Spiritually sacrifices their body of sin, as the goat killed, while placing their sins on the passover lamb, Jesus.

    Roman 6 6,
    Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed,


    However, during the tribulations, Israel will literal sacrifice their body of sin, while placing their sins on the scapegoat, Jesus.

    Israel’s two sacrifices are described in the following verse,

    Revelations 12 11,
    And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb,
    and they loved not their lifes unto the death.


    The churches "Atonement" to God is through the stripes in Jesus’s flesh, Israel’s stripes will be in their own flesh, a physical death.

    Jesus ask: Mr 10:38 But Jesus said unto them, can ye drink of the cup that I drink of?
    That cup of course was his death for our salvation.

    The church drinks of Jesus's cup when we “Crucify the old man”, but Israel will Literally drink of that cup.

    Jews have never believed in a human sacrifice for sin, as Jesus represented in the passover lamb,
    therefore they don’t believe the passover is an offering for sin.

    Feast of Tabernacles.

    Leviticus 23 34,
    Speak unto the children of Israel, saying,
    The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the LORD.

    Tabernacling means to “live with God”,


    When Jesus and his saints returns to the earth, they will live and reign with him for a thousand years.

    Revelation 20 4,
    and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

    However, Those who have been saved and indwelled by the Holy Ghost, will begin the Feast of Tabernacle “seven days” or “one week” (trib period) prior to the actual beginning here on earth.

    Revelations 3 10, Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world,

    Revelations 19 9,
    And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb.


    Daniel 9 27,
    And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:


    Since Jesus has already made atonement for believers, they, as the firstborn
    or firstfruit, are protected from the remaining coming day of atonement for the
    rest of the world,

    This is why the firstborn/firstfruit will Literally passover the tribulation period by
    the pre tribulation rapture.

    The first five events in the New testament occurred on the exact dates, given for their corresponding feast dates,
    leaving one to believe the rapture will also occur during the dates given for it’s corresponding feast, the feast of trumpets.

    The feast of trumpets is a 10 day feast occuring normally around the last of September and first of October.

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    Last three days

    This charts begins with the new testament,
    and how the events of this time period will unfold, it is also the same chart shown for the Feast days.

    We’ve already shown that Jesus was born and crucified on the fourth day, fifty days later the Holy Ghost descended.

    The next major event to occur is the rapture.

    The CHURCH, being the Bride of Christ, is ONE FLESH with Christ.

    John 3 29,
    He that hath the bride is the bridegroom.

    Mark 10 8,
    And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

    First Corinthians 12 27,
    Now ye are the body of Christ.


    The church represents the Physical presents of Christ in the world, and as such, has all the characteristics of Christ, that is, it Conforms to his image in All things.

    Romans 8 29,
    For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son.

    Let’s look at some of the ways the church will conform to Jesus’s image.

    Jesus, was the Son of God.
    Matthew 8 29,
    Jesus, thou Son of God.

    Christians, are Sons of God.
    John 1 12,
    to them gave he power to become the sons of God.


    Jesus, spoke the words of God.
    John 3 34,
    For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God:

    Christians, speak the words of God.
    John 17 8,
    For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me.


    Jesus, possessed the Holy spirit.
    John 3 34,
    for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

    Christians, possesses the Holy Spirit.
    Luke 11 13,
    your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him.



    Jesus, was the Light of the world.
    John 9 5,
    I am the light of the world.

    Christians, are the light of the world.
    Matthew 5 14,
    Ye are the light of the world.


    Jesus, performed the Works of God.
    John 9 4,
    I must work the works of him that sent me.

    Christians, perform the Works of God.
    John 14 12,
    He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also.



    Jesus, had the Righteousness of God.
    Romans 10 4,
    For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness.

    Christians, Have the Righteousness of God.
    Romans 3 22,
    Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe.


    Jesus, was God's Representative.
    Matthew 10 40,
    he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

    Christians, are God's Representatives
    Matthew 10 40,
    He that receiveth you receiveth me.


    Jesus, Crucified for salvation.
    Matthew 27 35,
    And they crucified him.

    Christians, Crucified for salvation.
    Romans 6 6,
    Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him.


    Jesus, sin had no dominion over Jesus.
    Second Corinthians 5 21,
    For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin.

    Christians, sin has no dominion over Christians.
    Romans 6 14,
    For sin shall not have dominion over you.


    Jesus, was Rapture off the earth.
    Acts 1 9,
    he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

    Christians, will be Rapture off the earth.
    First Thessolonians 4 17,
    Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds.


    Jesus, was Resurrected in three days.
    Luke 18 33,
    and the third day he shall rise again.

    Christians, will be Resurrected in Three days.
    Romans 6 5,
    we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection.

    These three days for the church are the 5th, 6th, and 7th day.


    Jesus, received a Glorified body.
    Acts 2 31,
    neither his flesh did see corruption.

    Christians, will receive a Glorified Body.
    First Corinthians 15 53,
    For this corruptible must put on in corruption.


    Jesus, Presented his Body a living sacrifice before God.
    1Co 5:7 For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

    Christians, present their body.
    Romans 12 1,
    that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God.


    Jesus, will inherit the universe.
    First Peter 3 22,
    Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

    Christians, will inherit the universe.
    Romans 8 17,
    And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ.


    Jesus, will Reign over the earth.
    Habakkuk 2 14,
    For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD,
    as the waters cover the sea.

    Christians, will Reign over the earth.
    Revelations 20 4,
    and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.


    The title, Son of God, conferred on Christians,
    entitled them to sit on the right hand of God, along with Jesus.

    Re 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne,


    As Jesus presented only his body before God,
    so will only his body, the Church, be presented before God at the lamb’s marriage supper.

    Re 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb.

    this lamb’s marriage supper occurs during the tribulations period, while God is making the earth Jesus’s footstool.


    Luke 20 42,
    And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

    These are just some of the ways Christians conform to Jesus’s image.


    The comforter, or Holy Ghost, which is the voice of Jesus, is unique to the church, Israel, under the old testament, the law and prophets system of
    leadership, did not have the comforter.

    Ecclesiastes 4 1,
    So I returned, and considered all the oppressions that are done under the sun: and behold the tears of such as were oppressed, and they had no comforter; and on the side of their oppressors there was power; but they had no comforter.

    The presents of the holy ghost, which is greater than Satan, forces Satan to flee from church saints when they resist him, this is why Satan can never prevail against the church saints.

    John 14 26,
    But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send, in my name.

    first Corinthian 6 19,
    What, know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you.

    first John 4 4,
    Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

    James 4 7,
    Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

    Because of the comforter’s presents, Jesus said this about the church saints,

    Matthew 16 18,
    I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    But during the tribulation, the antichrist does prevail against those saints.

    Daniel 7 21,
    I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them.

    the removable of the comforter, or holy ghost,
    and those indwelled by it prior to the tribulation, is necessary to prevent both Jesus and scripture from contradicting themselves.


    John 14 16,
    And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

    Since the comforter will abide with us for ever, when the comforter is taken from the world, the church will go with it, this is called the rapture.

    John 14 3,
    And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

    In the following verses, we find the end of Jesus’s ministry and the removal of the Comforter.

    Second Thessalonians 2 7,
    For the mystery of iniquity doth already work,
    only he, who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

    And then shall that Wicked be revealed,
    whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.


    Now, let’s look at the differences in the rapture, the Day of Christ, and Jesus’s second coming at the end of the tribulation, or, the day of the lord.


    In the rapture, the DAY OF CHRIST, Jesus is the reaper, taking His body, the church, both living and dead off the earth, leaving the unrighteous living to enter the tribulations.


    first Thessolonians 4 16,
    For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.

    Then we which are alive and remain, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    only the raptured saints will see Jesus at this time.

    1Corinthians 15 52,
    In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.


    At Jesus’s second coming, the DAY OF THE LORD, the angels are the reapers, casting the Body of Satan, the unrighteous living off the earth, leaving the righteous for the Millennial reign.

    Everyone on earth will see Jesus in the day of the lord.

    Re 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him,

    Matthew 13 30
    Let both grow together until the harvest:
    and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

    This is the wheat and tares separation, and the time period scripture refers to as the end of the world.

    Matthew13, 49
    So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just.


    The unsaved dead remain dead in both reaping,
    these aren’t resurrected until the Sheep (MK) and Goat judgment at the Great White Throne.

    Revelations 20 5,
    But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.


    After the angel’s reap, Jesus will conduct the bema seat judgement, this is rewards for work, not salvation.

    Luke 19 13,
    And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them,
    Occupy till I come.

    And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.

    Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.
    And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant:
    because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.

    And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.
    And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.

    After the rewards are given, we’ll live and reign over the cities with Jesus for the thousand years.

    Revelations 20 4,
    And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them, and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.


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    Spiritual vs Literal


    Now we come to the very interesting, but very confusing, part of scripture.

    As you see, there is a dual, or double, occurrence of characters and events,
    once at Jesus’s first coming and repeated again prior to, or at his second coming.


    We find that a single prophecy has a dual fulfillment to cover both comings of the lord,

    a spiritual fulfillment for his first coming,
    and a literal fulfillment for his second coming.


    With Jesus’s first coming spiritual vision, or revelations, was required to see and recognize each character and event.

    Let’s examine each individually,

    first Elijah.

    God had promised to send Elijah before the Messiah.

    Malachi 4 5,
    Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet,
    before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD.

    The disciples question Jesus about this.

    Matthew 17, 10,
    And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias, must first come?

    But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not,

    Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

    John the baptist was born in the spirit of Elijah.

    Luke 1, 17,
    And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias.


    During the tribulation period the physical Elijah, being one of the two witnesses, will appear with Moses.

    Revelations 11 3,
    And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

    Just as the prophecy to send Elijah has a dual, or double fulfillment, so do many other prophecies and statements made by Jesus.

    The Messiah,

    The spirit revealed to Peter that Jesus was the Messiah.

    Matthew 16, 16,
    And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

    And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

    Of course when Jesus returns the whole world will see and recognize him as the Messiah.

    Revelations 1 7,
    Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him,


    The Antichrist.

    Jesus revealed not only John the Baptist as being Elijah,
    but also JUDAS as being the Son of perdition, or antichrist.

    Joh 17 12,
    While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

    I’ll have a detail study of the antichrist later.


    The Day of the Lord.

    The day of the lord is when the messiah visits, or comes to, Jerusalem, that has already occurred once, and it will occur again.

    Jesus told Israel.
    And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.
    Luke nineteen, forty four,

    Of course Jesus’s next visit will be witness by the whole world.

    Revelations 1 7,
    Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him, and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

    Zechariah 14 4,
    And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east.


    The Two Witnesses.

    The two witnesses appeared with Jesus on the mountain of transfiguration,

    after six days foreshadows Jesus’s coming appearence on the seventh day, when every eye shall see him, with the brightness of his coming. 2Th 2:8

    Matthew 17 1,
    And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,

    And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light

    And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.

    These same two witnesses will reappear during the tribulation period bearing witness of Jesus again, and will perform many of the signs and wonders of the old testament, which Jews require to believe.

    Revelations 11 3,
    And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

    These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth,

    I should point out, there are only two, not three. (Enoch)

    These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

    The Revived Roman Empire.

    The Roman Empire (Fourth beast) will be revived as the ten headed beast of revelations, the European Union, or common market, is believed to be this beast,since it reigns over the same territory as the original Roman Empire.


    Daniel 2 40,
    And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron:
    forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things, and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

    And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; (feet/toes of beast=revived Roman Empire) but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

    And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken,

    And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men, but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

    Of Seven Kingdoms, Nebuchadnezzar’s Dream began as the “Third Kingdom”, Four kingdom later is the “Fourth”, which actually is the “SEVENTH”, or Roman Empire”.

    These Kingdoms will be listed in the Antichrist chart.

    At the top of the chart, we see, in three days, Jesus had this to say,

    John 2 19,
    Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

    John 2 21,
    But he spake of the temple of his body.


    Jesus was resurrected in 72 hours, but the chart show that Jesus will also be resurrected in three days of God’s time, or three thousand years and it will occur, early in the morning, of the third day, from his first appearance.

    Hosea can be interpreted either literally or spiritually and still be true.

    Hosea 6 2,
    After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

    Resurrection, as used in scripture, means to be back on earth alive, technically, the rapture is not a resurrection, since they are not back on the earth, but go directly to heaven,

    According to scripture, the first resurrection, is when all the saints physically return to the earth with Jesus at the end of the tribulation period.

    first Thessalonians 3 13,
    To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.

    Revelations 20, 5
    This is the first resurrection.


    Revelations 20 6,
    Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

    Failure to understand that one prophecy can and does apply to both comings of Jesus, is the source of most confusing about prophecy.

    This list does not contain all the dual prophecies/events, only the easier ones were
    chosen for explaination.

    The parables of the fig trees, his branch and her branch, I’ll explain in a separate
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    The Tribulations period

    Understanding why events occur in scripture, is paramount to understanding the event it’s self.

    Why is there a tribulation period, and why is there a pre tribulation rapture of the church?


    The tribulation period is both a time of chastisement and of wrath.
    Chastisement of Israel and wrath on those who “love not the truth”.

    The tribulation period is the last week of the 70 weeks prophesied by Daniel, the church had no part in the first 69 weeks and neither does it have a part in the last week.

    As stated previously, leadership by the Holy Ghost, which is the voice of Jesus, and being greater than Satan, must be taken out of the way, before the antichrist is revealed.

    Israel will then return back under the leadership of the law and prophets, the two witnesses, plus the 144000, during the tribulations.

    But first, let’s understand the circumstances.

    God made man from the Dust of the earth, then told Satan he would eat dust.

    Genesis 2 7,
    And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,

    Genesis 3 14,
    And the LORD God said unto the serpent, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life

    God gave Flesh to Satan for his bread of life, in the same sense, Jesus is the bread of life for believers.


    Now, let’s look at what Paul wrote to the church.

    first Corinthians 5 1,
    It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you,

    first Corinthians 5 5,
    To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.


    This fornication can be either physical or spiritual, as in whoring after other gods,
    Israel’s rejection of Jesus and the Holy Ghost constitutes this spiritual fornication.


    The following verses explains why/how God chastises Israel.

    Psalms 89 20,

    I have found David my servant; with my holy oil have I anointed him.

    verse 28,
    My mercy will I keep for him for evermore, and my covenant shall stand fast with him.
    His seed also will I make to endure for ever, and his throne as the days of heaven.
    If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments;
    If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments;

    Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes.


    God said he would chastise Israel with the rod and many stripes,

    but what is the rod and stripes?

    Isaiah 10 5,
    O Assyrian, the rod of mine anger, and the staff in their hand is mine indignation.

    O Assyrian, represents the antichrist,
    and the staff represents authority in the hands of the antichrist and Satan, or dominion over the world.

    When Moses and Arron cast down their rod to the earth, the rods turned into serpents, and the rod God uses to chastise Israel will also turn into a serpent, Satan,

    Exodus 4 2,
    And the LORD said unto him, What is that in thine hand? And he said, A rod.
    And he said, Cast it on the ground. And he cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent;

    Revelations 12 9,
    And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

    Revelation 12 13,
    And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

    The woman is Israel, the man child is Jesus.

    God does to Israel exactly what Paul wrote for the church to do.

    Jesus suffer the chastisement and stripes for the church in his flesh, but since Israel rejected Jesus, their flesh will suffer the STRIPES of abuse, torture and death at the hands of the AC.

    Isaiah 53 5,
    But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

    Jesus asked the question,

    Mark 10 38,
    can ye drink of the cup that I drink of?

    This cup was the same cup he ask to pass from him if possible in the garden, his death for our salvation.

    Matthew 26 39,
    O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me:

    The church drinks of Jesus’s cup when we spiritually crucify the flesh.

    Romans 6 6,
    Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him,

    But during the tribulation, anyone confessing Jesus, and refusing to worship the beast image, will literally be put to death, that is, they must be willing to physically die for Jesus’s salvation.

    Revelations 13 15,
    And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

    Revelation 6 9,
    And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were
    slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

    Confessing Jesus during the tribulation will result in the execution of the flesh,
    you’ll recall this from the feast days and day of atonement, their bodies represents the goat killed, Jesus is the scapegoat.

    Revelations 12 11,
    And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb,
    and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lifes unto the death.

    The church spiritually drinks of Jesus cup,
    but Israel will literally drink of his cup.

    This is the difference between Jesus bearing the chastisement and stripes in his flesh for
    the church and Israel having to bear the chastisement and stripe in their own flesh.


    And it is the reason the church does not have to suffer the tribulation period, but are rapture before the tribulation begins.

    The rapture is only for those accounted worthy to escape the tribulations, overcomers who continue to keep the “FAITH”.

    Luke 21 36,
    Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

    Revelations 3 10,
    Because thou hast kept the word of my patience,
    I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation,
    which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

    The parable of Matthew 22 gives us a brief outline of events starting with Israel’s
    rejection of Jesus, the Lamb’s marriage to the Gentiles, and Satan cast down after the rapture and at the start of the tribulations.


    Matthew 22 2,
    The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, (God) which made a marriage for his son. (Jesus)

    And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

    John 1 11,
    He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

    Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they (Jews) which were bidden were not worthy.

    Mt 15:24 I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

    Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. (Gentiles)

    And when the king came in to see the guests, (rapture Bride) he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

    And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment?
    And he was speechless.

    Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    Revelations 12 7, And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

    And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

    And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

    And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.


    Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

    And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth,he persecuted the woman (Israel) which brought forth the man child. (Jesus)


    When Jesus was on the earth he said he saw Satan cast down as Lightning.

    Luke 10 18,
    And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

    Light represents spirit, and this of course was the fall of Satan’s spiritual power over man
    through sin.

    But when the “Bride” arrivels in heaven, he is physically cast down to the earth, forever loosing his access to heaven and to accuse us before God.

    The parable of Matthew 20 tells of a man hiring workers, some work all day, some only work one hour but receive the same pay.

    The church has borne the heat of the day preaching the gospel, but Israel will also preach the gospel during the hour of the tribulation period.
    And being last, they will be restored back to first place during the Millennial Reign, having been the first to receive the oracles of God.

    Romans 3 1,
    What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
    Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.

    Zechariah 8 23,
    Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.


    This hour that Israel works for the gospel is also the same hour Jesus promised to keep the church from enduring.

    Revelations 3 10,
    Because thou hast kept the word of my patience,
    I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

    I believe many Gentiles will also come to trust in the lord during the tribulations, but it will be under the same conditions imposed on Israel.

    Israel demanded physical signs and wonders from Jesus as proof of him being the Messiah, and God will also demand physical proof from them, the choice to worship Jesus and physically die, or worship the image of the beast and live.

    The antichrist, and his faults prophet will produce many lying signs and wonders,
    along with the signs and wonders of the Two witnesses, Moses and Elijah, discerning which signs are of God and of Satan will be hard,

    Faith will still be the deciding factor.

    Second Thessalonian 2 9,
    Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

    Revelations 13 13,
    And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
    And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;

    Revelations 11 3,
    And I will give power unto my two witnesses,
    These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.


    Luke 18 8,
    Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

    Let’s compare some of the differences between church Saints and the tribulation Saints.

    1. The Church is Indwelled by the Comforter.
    first Corinthian 3 16,
    Know ye not that ye are the temple of God,
    and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

    1A. Israel was not, will not, be indwelled by the Comforter.
    Ecclesiastics 4 1,
    behold the tears of such as were oppressed,
    and they had no comforter.


    2. Because of the Holy Ghost presents, power is on the side of the Church.
    first John 4 4,
    because greater is HE that is in you, than he that is in the world

    2A. Because Jews had no comforter, power was on the side of their “oppressor”, Satan.
    Ecclesiastics 4 1,
    and on the side of their oppressors there was power; but they had no comforter.


    3. Because of the presents of the Holy Ghost, Satan must Flee from Church Saints.
    James 4 7,
    Resist the devil, and he will flee from you

    3A. with no comforter, Satan attacks Saints during the tribulations.
    Revelations 12 17,
    And the dragon was wroth with the woman,
    and went to make war with the remnant of her seed,


    4. Satan can never prevail against the Church Saints.
    Matthew 16 18,
    I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    4A. However Satan does prevail against the Tribulation Saints.
    Daniel 7 21,
    I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;


    5. The Church battles against Satan “Spiritually”.
    Ephesian 6 12,
    For we wrestle not against flesh and blood,
    but against principalities, against powers,
    against the rulers of the darkness of this world,
    against spiritual wickedness in high places.

    5A. Israel will physically Battle against Satan.
    Revelations 13 7,
    And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them:


    6. The Rod and Staff are comfort to the church.
    Psalms 23 4,
    thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

    6A. the Rod and Staff are “Great Tribulations” to Israel.
    Isaiah 10 5,
    O Assyrian, the ROD of mine anger,
    and the STAFF in their hand is mine indignation.


    7. The church dies spiritually, presenting their bodies a living sacrifice to God.
    Romans 12 1,
    that ye presents your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God,

    7A. Israel will die literally, presenting their dead bodies as a sacrifice.
    Revelations 12 11,
    And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb,
    and they loved not their lifes unto the death.
    Revelations 6 9,
    And when he had opened the fifth seal,
    I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God,


    Not all of Israel will be saved during the tribulation.
    Romans 9 6,
    For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

    And not all of Israel will die, some of the saved will physically survive the tribulation period, but the number will be so small, a child can write them.

    Isaiah 10 19,
    And the rest of the “trees” (people) of his forest shall be few, that a child may write them.

    These survivors will enter the Millennium reign and produce children, since those resurrected neither marry nor are given in marriage.

    Zechariah 8 3,
    Thus saith the LORD; I am returned unto Zion,
    and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth; and
    the mountain of the LORD of hosts the holy mountain.

    Thus saith the LORD of hosts; There shall yet old men and old women dwell in the streets
    of Jerusalem, and every man with his staff in his hand for very age.

    And the streets of the city shall be full of boys and girls playing in the streets thereof.

    The lamb’s marriage supper occurs during the Tribulation period, however the
    “marriage in CANA”
    is the celebration of the breach in the marriage between God
    and Israel being healed during the trib, and it’s in the “THIRD DAY”, (5th, 6th, 7th (MK))
    Jesus and his disciple are “Invited”.

    Isa 30:26 Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of
    the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the LORD bindeth
    up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.


    Revelations 7 13, And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
    And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me,
    These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes,
    and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.


    Joh 2:1 And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee;

    Joh 2:2 And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage.

    Those who have drank of the water Jesus gave the woman at the well, will find it turned
    into the “BEST WINE” they have ever drank.

    Joh 2:9 the governor of the feast called the “bridegroom”,

    Joh 2:10 And saith unto him, thou hast kept the good wine until now.

    This Marriage and return to Jerusalem represents the breach between God/Israel having been healed, and it is a Trinity parable.


    The Church body is chosen individually from among all nations, on a whosoever will basis

    However, Israel was chosen collectively as a nation, with individuals chosen only from
    that particular nation,

    as a result, Jews can not be totally free from God’s plan in fulfilling his promises made to
    Abraham/David.

    this is why an unbelieving Israel is still referred to as elect in scripture.

    Romans 11 28,
    As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

    Having a choice, as in whosoever will,
    and not having a choice, as being elected in part of God’s plans,

    is a major difference between the Gentile Church and Israel.
     
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    THE ANTICHRIST:

    He has been prophesied from Genesis:
    Ge 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between "thy seed" (antichrist) and "her seed"; (Jesus) it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

    As Jesus was the "seed of God",(Son of God) the antichrist is the "seed of Satan". (Son of perdition).

    And as Jesus was the only incarnation of God's seed, Son Of God.
    there is only one incarnation of Satan seed, Judas, the Son of Perdition.

    There wasn't an Antichrist until there was first a "Christ", therefore we know, it's the last days.

    1Jo 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

    From the above verse we learn of "two encounters" between Jesus and the antichrist, in the first the antichrist will "bruise his heel", in the second Jesus will "bruise thy head".

    Who is this antichrist, Jesus identified him as "Judas Iscariot" .

    Joh 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled

    The antichrist has many different names, "Son of Perdition", Prince of Tyrus, The Beast, the Crooked Serpent, the Bloody and Deceitful Man. plus many others. These various names leads many to believe it's a difference person, it isn't, there only one son of perdition.

    Many "Christians" don't believe in "reincarnation", but like all truths, Satan has
    twisted up the concept of reincarnation until he's convinced half the world they will get another chance at life and Christians that he, not God, created the concept. however John 1 3, wouldn’t be true in that case.

    John 1 3, All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.


    Elijah went to heaven in a whirlwind, Elisabeth gave birth to a son she named John the Baptist, but Jesus said he was Elijah in spirit.

    Lu 1:17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias,

    If John wasn’t Elijah, then the promise to send Elijah failed and Jesus was wrong.

    Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet

    Mr 9:11 And they asked him, saying, Why say the scribes that Elias must first come?

    Mr 9:13 But I say unto you, That Elias is indeed come,

    Mt 17:13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

    I define reincarnation as “same spirit”, “different body”.

    The Physical Elijah will return during the tribulations as one of the two witnesses.


    The spirit of Judas is also coming back as the antichrist in the tribulations.


    At the last supper, Peter ask John to ask Jesus who the betrayer was.

    John 13 23, Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.
    Simon Peter therefore beckoned to him, that he should ask who it should be of whom he spake.
    He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it? Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it.
    And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.

    And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.

    Now no man at the table knew for what intent he spake this unto him.

    For some of them thought, because Judas had the bag, that Jesus had said unto him, Buy those things that we have need of against the feast; or, that he should give something to the poor.
    He then having received the sop went immediately out: and it was night.

    After Jesus’s resurrection, Peter, upon seeing John following Jesus, reminded him of the question he has ask John to ask Jesus, Peter then questioned Jesus directly.

    John 21 20, Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?

    Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do?
    Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.
    Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?

    Jesus's reference that he, the betrayer, would be alive when he returned to the Earth led the disciple to believe that person would not die before Jesus returned.

    Because “no man” knew what intend Jesus had spoken to Judas at the supper, they were still ignorant of Judas’s role as the Betrayer.

    John 21 23, Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?

    However today, we know what Jesus meant, and it wasn’t “John”.


    second Thessolonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ, is at hand. (rapture)

    Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;


    Note the same "terminology" used to describe Jesus is also the same
    terminology used to describe Judas.

    Revelations 1 8, I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, (alive) and which was, (on Earth) and which is to come, (again) the Almighty.

    Now the antichrist.
    Revelations 17 8, The beast that thou sawest was, (on earth) and is not; (now) and shall ascend (again) out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:

    Add the fact that Jesus himself made reference to the one who betrayed him being alive when he returned, leaves little doubt that it's Judas "coming back".

    The first encounter between Jesus and Judas was when Judas "sold" Jesus for "thirty pieces of Silver" resulting in his Crucifixion.

    Jesus returned to Heaven and Judas "being a Devil" went to Hell.

    The second encounter will be when Judas ascends up from "Hell" (bottomless pit) and Jesus descends down from Heaven.


    The antichrist is a JEW who doesn't worship the "God of his fathers".
    Da 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers;

    Israel won’t accept anyone who isn’t Jewish as the Messiah.

    Da 11:23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.

    Judas has already "played the role" of the antichrist once, He "covenant with Jesus" to be his disciple, but Three and half years into that covenant he broke it when he "sold Jesus".

    The antichrist makes a "covenant" with Israel for "seven years", but after "three and half years" he breaks it.
    Da 11:23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully:

    Judas also walked with Jesus and the disciples, looking like a "Man of God" but in reality being a "devil", so will the antichrist appear to the people of the world.

    Jesus said:
    Joh 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: (as being
    the Messiah)

    if another shall come in his own name, "HIM" ye will receive. (as being the
    Messiah)

    2Th 2:9 Even "HIM", whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
    10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
    11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

    The antichrist "mimics" God with such miraculous "signs and wonders" that the Jews and the world believes "he is the Messiah", the "lie" they believe is him being the messiah. Satan is his "Father".

    Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


    Let's look at some of similarities between Jesus and the antichrist, or "son of perdition".

    2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.


    1. God, Father of the “Truth”, Jesus.
    Luke 2 11, For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord.
    Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth,

    1A Satan, Father of a “lie”, Judas.
    John 17 12, none of them is lost, but the son of perdition;

    John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his
    own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.



    2. Jesus, "Seed of God" , Her seed, Genesis 3 15.

    2A. Antichrist, "Seed of Satan" thy seed, Genesis 3 15.

    (Both “SEED” are “SINGULAR”, not “plural”)



    2. John 2 11, This beginning of miracles did Jesus

    2A. Second Thessolonians 2 9, Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,


    3. Isaiah 53 5, But he was wounded for our transgressions,

    3A. Revelations 13 3, And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death;


    4. Acts 1 3, To whom also he shewed himself alive

    4A. Revelations 13 3, and his deadly wound was healed:


    5. Matthew 16 18, I will build my church; (Body of Christ)

    5A. Revelations 13 12, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, (Body of Satan)


    6. John 14 9, he that hath seen me hath seen the Father;

    6A. second Thessolonians 2 4, so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.


    7. Revelations 22 4, and his name shall be in their foreheads.

    7A. Revelations 13 16, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:


    8. Revelations 19 11, And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, Re 19:12 and on his head were "many crowns";

    8A. Revelations 6 2, And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and "a crown" was given unto him:


    9. Jesus ministered 3 1/2 years (42 month)

    9A. Revelations 13 5, And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.


    10. Jesus died and went back to heaven.
    John 16 10, because I go to my Father.

    10A. Son of perdition, died and went to Hell.
    Acts 1 25, Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.
    (Hell)


    11. Jesus coming back from Heaven, John 14 3, I will come again.

    11A. the antichrist coming back from Hell Re velations 11 7, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit.


    12. God gives Jesus power;
    Matthew 28 18, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

    12A. Satan gives the antichrist power;
    Revelations 13 2, and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

    These are a few of the many areas Satan will "mimic" God.


    Revelations 17 10, And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

    These seven Kings are as follows.


    1. Egypt, the Pharaods

    2. Assyrian, Sennacherib

    3. Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar, Nebuchadnezzar’s Dream, Daniel 2 38,
    Thou art this head of gold.

    4. Medo-Persian, Cyrus, Darius, Daniel 2 39, And after thee shall arise
    another kingdom inferior to thee,

    5. Greek, Alexander The Great. another third kingdom of brass, which shall
    rule all the earth.

    6. Roman empire, Daniel 2 40, And the fourth kingdom shall
    be strong as iron:

    7, European Union, revived roman empire, Daniel 2 42, And as the toes
    of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay,

    8. Antichrist,

    Re 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

    Daniel 2:44, And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed:

    In the days of Jesus, Judas and the Roman empire, Jesus sat up the spiritual kingdom of the church, in the days of Jesus, Judas and the revived roman empire, Jesus will set up the physical Kingdom of the Millennium reign.

    At the time of the antichrist arrival, a "one world government" will be in place.

    He then will take control of it from them, "uprooting" three of the Kings in the process.

    This is Daniel's vision of the One world government and antichrist:


    Daniel 7 : 8, I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another "little horn", antichrist, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.


    Daniel 8 23, And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

    And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes;

    Man attempts to "enslave the world" under "One government", however the antichrist takes control of it and enslave them under him.

    Re 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

    13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

    As Haman build a "gallows" to hang Mordecai, then himself was hung on it, so are the men who organize the "one world government". Esther 7 10.

    Ecclesiastes 10 8, He that diggeth a pit shall fall into it;
    Revelations 13 10, He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity:

    The reign of the antichrist begins "peaceable", and by appealing to the "flesh", he obtains Control.

    Da 11:21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.

    Of course he is helped by Satan and "Evil Spirits".

    Daniel 8 24, And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power:
    Revelations 13 2, and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
    2Thessolonians 2 9, the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
    Revelations 16 14, For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles,
    Ezekiel 28 3, Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee:

    Mt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
    22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

    Never before has God allow satan complete control over the earth and it’s people as he will during the tribulations period. ( a time such as never been)

    Revelations 13 7, And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

    I haven’t studied the tribulation, except where it overlaps with my other studies, but the problem of a seven years tribulation period and the AC only given 42 months, (1260 days) or the last half of the Tribulation to reign, creates somewhat of a problem to explain.

    Re 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.


    As noted earlier, The spirit of Judas is reincarnated in a different body, I
    believe this will ocurr when the original person identified as the AC after the rapture will receive the deadly head wound and return to life.


    To the world he will appear to have been “Resurrected”, (same spirit, same body)
    But the truth will be he has been “Reincarnated” (same spirit, different body) by a former “Devil”.

    Joh 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?

    Re 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit,

    The AC of the first half will use “Peace, Flatteries, Treaties, to obtain control,
    The AC of the last half will use “War, Coercion, Murder” to obtain control, a complete change of “personality”.

    The AC revealed after the rapture will be a son of Satan, but he is not “THAT ANTICHRIST”, THE SON OF PREDITION” (singular) described by John/Jesus.

    1Jo 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist
    shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last
    time.

    Joh 17:12 and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition;

    The Great Tribulation doesn’t start until Satan and his Son are working “together”.

    Scripture describes the last half as the “GREAT TRIBULATION” and begin with the “Abomination of Desolation”.

    Mr 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel
    the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them
    that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

    Mt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation,

    Re 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of
    God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore
    days.
    (42 months)


    Like Jesus, I believe the AC will be a man of about 30 years of age.

    The war between the two “SONS”, Jesus/AC ends with Jesus’s return, however the war between the two “FATHERS” , God/Satan, doesn’t end until the GWT.


    Here's a short list of events that will occur during the tribulations period.


    Isaiah 13 13, Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place,

    Isaiah 24 20, The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard,

    Re 16:18 and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

    Re 16:20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

    Isa 30:26 Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the LORD bindeth up the breach of his people,

    Revelations 16 9, And men were scorched with great heat,

    Revelations 16 21, And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: (60 Lb.)

    How many People will die???
    Jeremiah 25 33, And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.

    Mr 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved:
     
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    This was our chart showing the dual fulfillment of Prophecy, it also shows a dual fulfillment of the parables of the fig trees, but let’s switch to a chart with more detail.

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    The parable in Matthew 24 uses the term, his branch, while the parable in Mark uses the term her branch.

    These are two separate parables covering two separate events, but the parables are written so close to being indentical, few have noticed the difference between them.


    Matthew 24 32, Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

    but who is his Branch?

    Jeremiah 23 5,
    Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.

    Zechariah 6 12,
    And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying,
    Behold the man whose name is,The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:

    Obviously, his branch represents Jesus.

    Let’s see what the rest of the parable says.

    So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.


    Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

    The parables says the generation who saw his branch, shall not pass until all be fulfilled.

    How long is a generation??

    Psalms 90 10, The days of our years are threescore years and ten;

    A generation is described as being 70 years.

    According to scripture and history, the generation who was born with Jesus and later
    rejected him, did not pass before Roman destroyed Jerusalem, the temple, and scattered the Jews, bringing an end to the nation, this occurred in 70 AD.

    Mt 22:2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,

    Mt 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

    Matthew 22:7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

    It’s easy to see that this parable was fulfilled exactly as prophesied.


    Now let’s look at the other parable

    Mark 13 28,Now learn a parable of the fig tree;
    When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near:

    So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors.

    Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

    The parable of her branch says the same about the generation who see the nation of Israel reborn/restored, and it is the first step toward healing the breach of the marriage between
    God/Israel.

    Jeremiah 3 14, Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD; for I am married unto you:


    Let’s apply the interpretation and fulfillment of his branch to her branch and some calculations and see what this tells us

    Israel put forth her branch by declaring her independence on March 14, 1948.

    If we add 70 years to that date we arrive at, 2018.

    Subtract 7 years for the rapture, brings us back to 2011, or even the possibility of before 2011.

    Is that Scary, only if you’re not looking forward to going home.

    Luke gave a warning about the end of the world by combining both trees in his parable.

    Luke 21 29, And he spake to them a parable;

    Behold the fig tree, and all the trees;
    When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.
    So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.

    Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

    Scripture require two or three witnesses to establish a matter,

    Matthew, Mark, Luke all give the same warning,

    but are there other witnesses that the rapture is near?

    First, God said we would work six days and rest on the seventh, those six days are already history.

    Second, If there are to be only six work days, and “Her branch” is the “last generation”, then “her branch” can only be restored within a generation of the end of the sixth day, 1948 is well within that range.

    Third, from the first Adam until “Abraham, Father of the nation of Israel was 1948 years.
    From the Second Adam (Jesus) until Israel’s rebirth/restoration was also 1948 years.

    Fourth, Jesus’s promise to be resurrected in three days, was both spiritual and literal,
    the church, in conforming to his image, will also be resurrected early in the morning of the third thousandth year day,

    we are in the early morning hours of that third day.

    John 219,
    Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

    Fifth, Daniel’s book is now opened.
    Da 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the
    time of the end:


    Sixth, Since the first five events in the NT all occurred on the "EXACT DATES" given for their corresponding feast, we can expect the Rapture to also occur during it's corresponding feast, "The Feast of Trumpets", the last of Sept, first of Oct.

    As you see, scripture doesn’t leave us as much in the dark about the timing of the rapture as many believe,

    First Thessalonians 5 4,
    But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.


    Jesus condemned those of his day for being able to read the signs of the sky, but not the signs of the times.

    Matthew 16 1,

    The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven.
    He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red.

    And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring.
    O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky;

    but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

    Time, eventually proves all prophecy to be either true or faults, and according to the
    schedule given in the scriptures,

    the ultimate proof of prophecy, the end of time, is extremely close.

    We are in that small space of time between 1948 and the start of the tribulations.

    Am 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
     
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    Thank you Brother Me4Him.

    As usuall, we shall have to study this over
    time. If we have any questions, we can ask
    them here. But for now i have a short comment:

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    This picture is like a Hebrew Poem. Hebrew
    Poetry didn't rhyme like ours but considted
    of similiar and contrasting ideas. This
    poem is of the form: A.B.C.D.C.B.A.
     
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    Yep, you're right, for every point, there is a counter point, however in the scripture it's "Spiritual vs. Literal", but the principle is still the same.

    "Foreshadowing" or "Prefiguring" in the scriptures always has a "Spiritual application", and it works in the reverse.

    The "spiritual binding of Satan" during the Mill reign will be manifested here in the physical world by the fact that snakes (that old serpent, satan) won't bite during the MK, and no "Carnivorous animal".

    (Flesh is satan's "bread of life")

    Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

    8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.

    9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain:

    It's only when you can "SEE" this "circle", between the spiritual/Literal that you can really start understand the Bible, especially the Tribulation period.
     
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    It's amazing how one can make the Bible support whatever "end-times" scenario/time-table/chart one can come up with. :D

    (Heck, I even remember back in 1988 someone did the same thing, expounding 88 "Biblical" reasons why Christ was returning that year. Oh well, I guess that wasn't God's-plan-for-the-ages afterall [​IMG] )
     
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    Greetings

    The key to eschatology is to use God's philosophy of history. One must consider God's faithfulness to Israel, the final elimination of sin, and the restoration of all things to the Pre-fall Garden of Eden environment (with plus ups for grace).

    Lloyd
     
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    The Church is the New Israel. Physical Israel will be saved if/when they are grafted back into Christ and are part of the Church of Christ.
     
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    Hey Doubting Thomas

    Rom 9-11 guantees Israel will be saved. However, the Church is not now nor will it ever be Israel. Where did you come up with that non-biblical guffaw?

    Lloyd
     
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    Amen, Brother Ascund -- Preach it! [​IMG]
     
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    Doubting Thomas: "Physical Israel will be saved if/when they are grafted back into Christ and are part of the Church of Christ."

    Physical Israel is already a church and will be
    in time part of the Church of Jesus.
    BTW, it is a 100% certainty that Physcial
    Israel will be saved individual by individual
    when they see the Antichrist enter the
    Temple and declare himself god. And then they
    will each infividually see that Jesus is their
    Messiah unto salvation.
     

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