Gospel of the Wolves

Suzanne;
The main reason the Jewish believers did not fight alongside the Jewish non-believers is that Akiva, a prominent 'Rabbi' of the time, had promoted Bar Kochba (leader of the rebellion) as the Messiah; in order to join the rebellion, they would have had to accept Bar Kochba as the Messiah, which of course they couldn't go along with.

 

There are many who are believe they are practicing as the first Christians (who were really Messiancs and Gentiles grafted in) so don't forget Baptists, Protestants and Catholics.

Please refrain from blanket statements and generalizations. This is the type of thing that breeds hatred and prejudice and I'm sure we don't need anymore of that in the Christian community.

And you know this for a fact because?.....

And your point is?....

soooo?...

Well I'm just going to lump these together. There are also Messianics who DON'T do all these things, what's your point? If you are trying to infer that that are caught up in the law and legalism and that grace and faith are absent (maybe I'm reading too much into it) then you have taken it upon yourself to judge their heart toward God.

My family is from Hungary and there are traditions that we carry on because it connects us as family and it helps us remember our history, but there is never an obligation to take part.

I'm not Jim, Ron, but for what's it's worth here's my opinion.....why would the above quoted Jews WANT to join a Christian felllowship that didn't uphold what they felt was important? It's not a question of if the church would let them join, but why would they want to unless they were willing to change their traditions?

 

I addressed Jim for a specific reason. His purpose in starting the thread, as I understand it, was to discredit the Catholic Church by claiming that Jews were excluded from a Church Council.

My question to him was to prompt him to consider why such persons would be excluded, if in fact they were.

Further, if such exclusion proves a "gospel of the wolves", would a similar exclusion from his church also prove a "gospel of the wolves"?

While your question of 'why would they want to join' may be vaild in another context, it is not relevant to Jim's topic as originally stated.

Ron

[ September 13, 2002, 10:31 AM: Message edited by: trying2understand ]

 

Jim, why do you not answer my specific questions? They are directly related to your original premise.

You said to jot down "others surpressed in silence" but have not acknowledged that your understanding of those words was completely wrong.

You set up the premise that by not including Jews to the Council, that proved that it was preaching a "Gospel of the Wolves" but you have not said whether your church would include such Jews or not.

You judged the "spirit" of the Church based on a few words critical of Jews, but do not appear to have looked at the words of Phelps (a contemporary Baptist pastor) and applied an equal standard to his gospel.

Why start these threads if you are not going to address the issues?

Now instead you are changing the subject to something about the "called out body" and institutions.

Let's get back to your original post and my responses to it.

Ron