Guns Rights Zealots--Shoot Down this Idea

I suppose this lame plea will be the avenue that the leftest politicians and sorry lame media will take in addition to them cryin' about even MORE gun control-----to the point where I can own a gun but that if it isn't locked up in a child proof safe and is stolen from my home and used in a crime---I, as the guns owner---am a accomplice and accesory to the crime!!

Now I have heard everything!!!

 

Jack--just went through this with InTheLight. What you're saying is, a gun dealer does his/her part; they run the background check, they enforce the waiting period in those states that require it, they do all the paperwork--and the person they just sold the gun to, after following all the legal process steps, uses the weapon for a crime. How do you justify that the gun dealer still has some complicity in the crime? Or the weapon is stolen from the person who bought it following the legal process--do we now hold the gun owner AND the gun dealer complicit in the crime?

The answer is NOT the availability of the weapon; the answer is enforcing the rules/laws about using the weapons. Make the penalty so severe no one will want to use them for illegal purposes.

 

That is right the threat to over regulate gun ownership has been looming for years. The fact that it hasn't happened is not evidence that no one, to include obama, wants to do it. It is evidence that the threat has been beaten back each and every time. What is "stupid" are those who pretend otherwise.

 

There is no such thing as "over-regulating" gun ownership. If you believe that, you do not understand the second amendment.

Virtually every post since I suggested that gun manufacturers and gun owners should be responsible for their guns has proved the point that I made, which is that, when it comes to gun ownership, personal accountability and responsibility does not apply. It applies to everyone else and everything else, but not them.

It is the same thing as holding a bar or cocktail lounge responsible for allowing one of their customers to get drunk and get behind the wheel of a car. Or that a woman who runs risks and winds up pregnant should carry the baby to term. Be responsible. If you want to own a gun, make sure it is used legally, otherwise, pay the price. The rest of us should not have to, nor should children in their school.

 

No one has denied personal responsibility or accountability. You're leveling false accusations at people and it's not right, even it is expected from people who favor more gun control. Your whole argument is based on misleading information.

 

It comes from thinking with the heart, and not the head.

That, and the mindset that everyone who disagrees is "stupid". LOL.

And personal responsibility now has a chain of command.

WOW.

 

I hope that the police always arrive in time when they are needed for Jack and ITL.

For those of us who live where the response time is anywhere from 15-45 minutes, self-protection is our right and RESPONSIBILITY. Especially here in the South Texas badlands.

 

Or just about anywhere in Montana.

 

We already have those kinds of laws. Had the shooter lived then those charges would have been filed.

 

The sensible way to do what you ask is to have armed protection in the so-called "gun-free" zones. Anything else is just punishing the innocent.

Let's face it, when we commit our children to public education we commit them to their safety and care for the hours they are there. If they do not provide that safety then that is not the fault of legal, law-abiding gun owners.

I suppose you were speaking somewhat TIC, but only an idiot sleeps with a gun under their pillow. Mine is close at hand, though.

 

Good grief it is clear you do not.

Only in your mind.

Its not the same thing.

 

Jack, for your bar analogy to work, then the bartender would also be liable for whenever a woman gets drunk, loses her inhibitions, and as a result, gets pregnant. I mean, let's face it: if the bartender hadn't sold her just one more drink, she might not have ended up saying yes. So technically, the bar and bartender should be contributing to the child support.

It's all about personal responsibility. Lanza's mother didn't give him a gun; he took hers, and killed her with it. Then he took more of hers; whether they had trigger locks or were in a gun safe, I don't know--but it doesn't matter, because they belonged to his mother, and he probably knew where the key was. Then he used his mother's weapons to murder others.

Jack, the state of Illinois requires that you possess a Firearms Owner ID in order to buy or have weapons and ammunition. Guess what? There were 14 shootings in Chicago over Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. I don't know how many of those shooters had their FOIDs, but it didn't stop them, now did it?

The ONLY thing you can do is severely punish improper use of weapons. Educate, educate, educate. Make it so that people are ingrained that improper weapons is not a consideration because the crime isn't worth the punishment.

 

Liberals are always wanting to blame someone else for everything. Personal responsibility goes right out the door with them'

 

Now this is one of the most glaring distinctions between libs & conservatives; certainly not the only one, but one of the most obvious!