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Has Terrorism Spawned the Mark of the Beast?

Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by John3v36, Nov 27, 2002.

  1. John3v36

    John3v36 New Member

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    I found the following and was wondering if you thought "Terrorism Spawned the Mark of the Beast?"

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    Has Terrorism Spawned the Mark of the Beast?

    Thomas R. Horn, Editor of Raiders News Update.

    A prototype of an implantable biometric chip capable of marking an individual's precise location and of monitoring him or her for life is gaining support. It was named Best in Show of 170 International Science Exhibitors last year, and released in its "First Phase" wristwatch format called Guardian Angel soon after. Beta testing with an eye on human implantation was initiated privately, and recent acts of terrorism have many calling for quick implementation of the technology.

    Applied Digital Solutions (ADS) received patent rights to Digital Angel (TM) technology on December 10, 1999. What set Digital Angel apart from the competition was the innovative design--a miniature digital transceiver specifically created for human implantation.

    According to information released last year the implantable transceiver "sends and receives data and can be continuously tracked by GPS (Global Positioning Satellite) technology. The transceiver's power supply and actuation system are unlike anything ever created. When implanted within a body, the device is powered electromechanically through the movement of muscles, and it can be activated either by the 'wearer' or by the monitoring facility."

    An Information Technology report recently verified plans to study implantable chips as a method of tracking terrorists. After first pulling back from the implantable version of its Digital Angel, ADS foresees a unique use of its product in the wake of terrorist attacks in New York and Washington.

    "We've changed out thinking since September 11," a company spokesman said, "Now there's more of a need to monitor evil activities."

    ADS also claims the Digital Angel has a variety of other uses, such as "providing a tamper-proof means of identification for enhanced e-business security, animal tracking, locating lost or missing individuals, tracking the location of valuable property and monitoring the medical conditions of at-risk patients."

    Following the Internet World Wireless 2001 award for "Best of Show: Client Services," Mercedes Walton, President and COO of Applied Digital Solutions, said: ``We have always had high expectations for the Digital Angel products. This award is truly a validation of our faith in Digital Angel's ability to capture the imagination of the public. Consumer anticipation has translated into accelerated interest from potential partners and allies. We are eager to bring Digital Angel to the marketplace in a very timely manner...."

    To further advocate Digital Angel technology, Applied Digital Solutions launched a website http://www.digitalangel.net where viewers can peruse diagrams and read summary information.

    Other manufacturers of sub-skin implants have quietly field-tested similar devices over the past few years. The London Times reported in October 1998, "Film stars and the children of millionaires are among 45 people, including several Britons, who have been fitted with the chips (called the Sky Eye) in secret tests."

    Due to civil liberty and privacy issues, the ACLU announced opposition to mandatory microchip implantation when applied to humans. The ACLU is certain to be a strange bedfellow of Christians and conservatives concerning this issue.

    THE FULFILLMENT OF PROPHECY?

    Many Christians believe that, before long, an antichrist system will appear. It will be a New World Order, under which national boundaries dissolve, and ethnic groups, ideologies, religions, and economics from around the world, orchestrate a single and dominant sovereignty. The system will supposedly be free of religious and political extremes, and membership will tolerate the philosophical and cultural differences of its constituents. Except for minor nonconformities, war, terrorism, and hunger will be a thing of the past.

    According to popular Biblical interpretation, a single personality will surface at the head of the utopian administration. He will appear as a man of distinguished character, but will ultimately become "a king of fierce countenance" (Dan. 8:23).

    With imperious decree the Antichrist will facilitate the one-world government, universal religion, and globally monitored socialism. Those who refuse his New World Order will inevitably be imprisoned or destroyed, until at last he exalts himself "above all that is called God, or that is worshiped, so that he, as God, sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God" (2 Thess. 2:4).

    The Antichrist's widespread power will be derived at the expense of individual human liberties. He will force "all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six [666]" (Rev. 13:16-18).

    For many years the idea that humans could somehow succumb to little more than branded cattle, and that rugged individualism would thereafter be sacrificed for an anesthetized universal harmony, was repudiated by America’s greatest minds.

    Then, in the 1970’s, things began to change. Following a call by Nelson Rockefeller for the creation of a "New World Order," presidential candidate Jimmy Carter campaigned, saying, "We must replace balance of power politics with world order politics."

    During the 1980's President George Bush continued the one-world dirge, announcing over national television that "a New World Order" had arrived. Following the initial broadcast, President Bush addressed the Congress, saying,

    What is at stake is more than one small country [Kuwait], it is a big idea--a new world order, where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind: peace and security, freedom, and the rule of law. Such is a world worthy of our struggle, and worthy of our children’s future!

    Ever since the President's astonishing newscast, a parade of political and religious leaders have discharged a profusion of rhetoric aimed at implementing the goals of a New World Order.

    Developers of biometric implant chips employ similar language in announcing compatible global technologies, and many Americans consider electronically marking humans or implanting a series of digital equations under the skin to be the natural progress of advancing and necessary technologies.

    A 1980 defense department cartoon showing a change taking place in Defense Management. A runner hands over plans for national defense to another runner with "666" on his track suit.




    IT SHOULD COME AS NO SURPRISE

    Some people believe implantable microchips will be the Biblical Mark of the Beast. These claim that acts of terrorism such as the ones in New York and Washington, encourage microchipping humans for identification purposes.

    But even before the New York and Pentagon tragedies, a push was being made to brand and monitor humanity. Consider the following:

    As far back as 1973, Senior Scholastics introduced school age children to the concept of buying and selling using numbers inserted in the forehead. In the September 20, 1973 feature "Who Is Watching You?" the secular high school journal speculated:

    "All buying and selling in the program will be done by computer. No currency, no change, no checks. In the program, people would receive a number that had been assigned them tattooed in their wrist or forehead. The number is put on by laser beam and cannot be felt. The number in the body is not seen with the naked eye and is as permanent as your fingerprints. All items of consumer goods will be marked with a computer mark. The computer outlet in the store which picks up the number on the items at the checkstand will also pick up the number in the person's body and automatically total the price and deduct the amount from the person's 'Special Drawing Rights' account."

    In the 1974 article "The Specter of Eugenics," Charles Frankel pointed out Linus Pauling's (Nobel Prize winner) suggestions that a mark be tattooed on the foot or forehead of every young person. Pauling envisioned a mark denoting genotype.

    In 1980, U.S. News and World Report continued the warning, pointing out that the Federal Government was contemplating "National Identity Cards," without which nobody could work or conduct business.

    The Denver Post Sun followed up in 1981, claiming that chip implants could someday replace I.D. cards. The June 21, 1981 story read in part, "The chip is placed in a needle which is affixed to a simple syringe containing an anti-bacterial solution. The needle is capped and ready to forever identify something--or somebody."

    The May 7, 1996 Chicago Tribune questioned the technology, wondering aloud if we could trust Big Brother under our skin?

    Then in 1997 applications for patents of subcutaneous implant devices for "a person or an animal" were applied for.

    On April 27, 1998, Time Magazine ran the story, The Big Bank Theory And What It Says About The Future OF Money, in which they opined "Your daughter can store the money any way she wants--on her laptop, on a debit card, even (in the not too distant future) on a chip implanted under her skin."

    In August 1998 the BBC covered the first known human microchip implantation. (see documentation)

    That same month the Sunday Oregonian warned that proposed medical identifiers might erode privacy rights by tracking individuals through alphanumeric health identifier technologies. The startling Oregonian feature depicted humans with barcodes in their foreheads.

    Senator Robb (Virginia) felt it necessary to add the MARC (multi-technology automated reader card) Card Amendment to the FY97 DOD Authorization Bill.

    One can only speculate why bionics is attempting to create organisms that contain linked organic (human cells) material with biometric chips for human implantation (documentation site) Also see here (second story)

    [Click here for Hundreds of Supporting Documents, Recent News Stories, and Research links to Advancing Sciences of Implantable Chip Technologies]

    Meanwhile, it's the year 2002. Terrorism has many people in the mood to sacrifice human liberties, and Digital Angel has opened its first mass production factory in Palm Beach, Florida.

    [The ominous Oregonian feature]
    WILL DIGITAL "MARKS" SOON BE MANDATORY?

    Makers of implantable microchips claim the proceedure will be voluntary at first. But a report written by Elaine M. Ramish for the Franklin Pierce Law Center says:

    "A [mandatory] national identification system via microchip implants could be achieved in two stages: Upon introduction as a voluntary system, the microchip implantation will appear to be palatable. After there is a familiarity with the procedure and a knowledge of its benefits, implantation would be mandatory."

    George Getz, the communications director for the Libertarian Party agrees, saying:

    After all, the government has never forced anyone to have a driver license, [but] try getting along without one, when everyone from your local banker to the car rental man to the hotel operator to the grocery store requires one in order for you to take advantage of their services, that amounts to a de facto mandate. If the government can force you to surrender your fingerprints to get a drivers license, why can't it force you to get a computer chip implant?

    People like Mr. Getz are correct. Conservatives and liberals alike need to contact state and federal representatives and demand laws preserving individual rights before Digital Angel and similar forces lead humanity down a high-tech path of no return.

    Just as Social Security numbers were first voluntary, then mandatory, biometric chip implants will eventually become mandatory unless citizens rise up in immediate and national opposition. Even Applied Digital Solution's chief executive officer Richard Sullivan envisions a scenario where ``people [are] required to be chipped or [have] some combination of a device requiring them to be scanned and monitored at all times.''

    Note what the prophet said!

    And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark [charagma; from Greek charax meaning to stake down into or "stick into"] in their right hand, or in their foreheads....Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six (Rev. 13:16-18)

    Did the prophet foresee a hypodermic needle injecting something beneath the skin? Probably.

    A temporary victory was won against such ideas following the original news story by Raiders News Update concerning ADS's implantable microchip intentions in 1999. News services across the web ran our story resulting in an inundation by concerned readers. ADS's shares droped on the Nasdaq from $5.00 to .50 each. ADS then released this statement: "We are not pursuing any applications for embedded chips and we have moved away from that for a couple of reasons....There are a number of privacy concerns and religious implications -- fundamentalist Christian groups regard it [implanting computer chips] as the Devil's work."

    More recently however an Independent news story claimed that if the Palm Beach testing center's wristwatch version of Digital Angel is successful, ADS "will start implanting them inside humans between the muscle and the skin on the forearm next year."

    Now terrorism has people thinking that everything from face scanning to implantable chips is not only inevitable, but perhaps a good idea. These are differences in degree, not in kind, and mandates an immediate response from level headed people to lawmakers. It also forecast a prediction made long ago:

    And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. (Rev. 14:9-11)

    Copyright © 2001 Thomas Horn. Thomas Horn is the founder and editor of Raiders News Update.
     
  2. Johnv

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    This technology is not new. It's been used in tagging animals for years.

    We had this same arguement when ATMs became the rage. We had the same arguement when the internet became accessible.

    Why is it that it's so easy for us to see signs of evil that aren't there, but fail to see the signs of good that are all around us?
     
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    Something has to start it.
     
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    Because with ATMs, Social Security numbers, etc., there wasn't the possibility of having it actually in your right hand or forehead.
     
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    Does this mean I can get a Universal Product Code tattooed on my forehead now without worrying about whether I'm "taking the mark"?
     
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    As you can see, I'm not an old-timer here and do not desire to ressurect a dead horse if there is one on the subject, but I have a question for you.

    Your posts indicate to me that you all think the mark of the beast will be a "literal" mark in the forehead or on the right hand. Hence, my question:

    Are you all convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that the mark is a literal one - and - can you prove it is with scripture?

    Could it be a figurative mark that is indicated by a person's beliefs (forehead) or a person's actions (hand)?

    Again, if this is a dead horse or out of place, I'll request it be deleted.

    In Christ - Jim
     
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    According to Revelation, no one will be able to trade or shop without the mark; that kind of precludes a shopkeeper asking you "Hey, what do you believe?"
     
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    I personally don't think the mark is a literal mark. The Book of Revelation is extremely heavy on symbolism and analogy, so the idea of an implanted device being the mark of the beast, I just don't buy it.

    The point I was trying to make earlier what that every attempt to "prove" the mark of the beast has been wrong so far. Based on results, I think this one is wrong as well.
     
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    Can you help us out & cite a biblical reference? I don't doubt you, I'm just curious.
     
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    Don must be referencing Rev. 13:17

    "And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

    The mark Don, is just 1/3 of that verse - there are 2 "or's" in it also (mark - name- number).
     
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    I believe the "mark" is literal. I also believe it could be an implanted computer chip. Notice the verse says "in" a specific hand (right) or "in" forehead....not "on" as in a tattoo.

    Rev. 13:[16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

    [17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    [18] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

    The "reason" for having to get this mark is totally understandable in the present world events...security, to prevent identity fraud, to prevent credit fraud, to simplify banking and all financial transactions, to track terrorists, to carry around your medical records in your body, to help identify patients who may have Alzheimer's or mental problems so they can be found...lots of "reasonable" explanations. Sin always sounds reasonable, so why should taking the Mark sound anything less? Think they are going to actually come out and say, "this is the Mark of the Beast mentioned in Revelation. Take this Mark & you will condemn yourself to eternal hell." I don't think so.

    So God says: "here is wisdom." And the Bible also says some of the very elect will be deceived, too.

    There will always be scoffers. There are people who post on this board who don't think we are living in the last days either. :rolleyes:

    But I do.
     
  12. Johnv

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    There are people who post on this board who don't think we are living in the last days either.

    And I'm one of them. Especially given that everyone who has made predictions about revelation and the last days so far has been wrong. Hal Lindsay, for example.
     
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    SheEagle911 - neither of us can "prove" our point quoting scripture but I would like to address your pointing out the word "in" (the right hand - forehead). The Greek word is "epi" (Strong's 1909)which means in, on, upon, at, by,unto, by, and a variety of other possibilities that the translators could have used just as well.

    I can see more of an application for the computer chip thing in this day and age than I can in the time of antichrist. If one subscribes to the "Pre-tribulational" rapture theory, they don't think they have to fret over this issue at all.

    The "literal" mark would serve more purpose if the elect were to experience (some) part of the tribulation, would it not? Please don't talk about "wrath" here as God will save us from His wrath (the day of the Lord). We're subject to the devil's wrath today, aren't we?

    Here's another item of interest and I can only speak to the KJV on this. Antichrist appears only 4 times (if my memory serves me and in the plural once) and is never preceeded by the adjective "the." Yet you see people use both words together and even capitalize the A in antichrist as if to identify a specific being. I capitalized it only because it was the first word in a sentence. :D

    I wish somebody would explain the following verse to me.

    1 John 2:18  ¶Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

    So if there had already been "many" antichrists during John's lifetime, why do folks now-a-days think the one associated with the tribulation is a specific being. John defines the word with each use as those who deny Jesus is Christ and who do not confess Jesus came in the flesh (1 John 2:22, 1 John 4:3, and 2 John 1:7).

    I've rambled enough - sorry folks. [​IMG] Jim
     
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    Hey, JIMNSC!

    It's because the Anti-Christ will set up a peace in Israel. Then, at about 3-1/2 years, he will turn against Israel. So, that's why he is associated with a specific being. He will also blaspheme in the rebuilt Solomon's temple.

    BTW, found this article on the web, published last October (forgot to copy the link, though, duh :rolleyes: )

    BTW, I'm pre-trib. But believe Christians may have to suffer before the full blown Tribulation begins. (Christians are suffering persecution all over the world today already. Evangelical Christians in the West are just getting verbally attacked right now, like by our President & Colin Powell. :rolleyes: ) So, buckle your seat belts, Bride of Christ, it may be a rough ride before the trumpet sounds! [​IMG]
     
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    I once heard a Preacher say we have been living in the end times since Jesus was taken up to Heaven. From that time on things have just snow balled and we are working toward the last days.
    Also the scripture says be ready any time, so I guess maybe we should just live every day of our lives like they are our last, rather it be due to death or rapture. [​IMG]
    Love in Christ Angie [​IMG]
     
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    Matthew 24:24 says that "if it were possible" they would deceive the elect. Sounds to me like that isn't possible, but rather he is making a statement as to just how powerful that deception will be. Are there other references that you are using to come the conclusion that the elect will be deceived?

    ~Lorelei

    [ November 28, 2002, 08:39 AM: Message edited by: Lorelei ]
     
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    Matthew 24:24 says that "if it were possible" they would deceive the elect. Sounds to me like that isn't possible, but rather he is making a statement as to just how powerful that deception will be. Are there other references that you are using to come the conclusion that the elect will be deceived?

    ~Lorelei</font>[/QUOTE]Matt. 24:[3] And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
    [4] And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

    If it were impossible for the elect to be deceived, Jesus would not have admonished to take heed.

    There are elect being deceived today, i.e., believing that Allah is the same as the One True God.

    We can start another thread about deceiving the elect, if you like. It might be an interesting topic. ;)
     
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    It could be an interesting topic, but I just wanted the references that you were referring to. Thanks for sharing them with me, the thread can go back on topic now! [​IMG]

    ~Lorelei
     
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