Have you heard of Peter C.Wagner or Eva Mendez?

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  1. xdisciplex

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    They are both into spiritual warfare.
    I don't really know what to think about these methods of spiritual warfare. Things like prayer marches or symbolical acts in cities where there is supposed to be a strong satanic presence. Like for example dedicating a city to Jesus or walking around in a city and going to key points and doing symbolic rituals and such things.
    Where is this in the bible? To me it seems like some christians are trying to come up with their own stuff to make it more interesting. :confused:
    But on the other hand the bible is silent about a lot of things. The bible also doesn't tell us what multiple personalities are and how to treat them. Are they demonic or what are they?
     
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    Xdisciplex: //The bible also doesn't tell us what multiple personalities
    are and how to treat them. Are they demonic or what are they?//

    They are deamons, as described in the Holy Scripture

    Mar 5:1-17 (KJV1611 Edition):
    And they came ouer vnto the other side of the sea,
    into the countrey of the Gadarenes.
    2 And when hee was come out of the ship, immediatly
    there met him out of the tombes, a man with an vncleane spirit,
    3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs, and no man
    could binde him, no not with chaines:
    4 Because that hee had bene often bound with fetters
    and chaines, and the chaines had bene plucked asunder
    by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
    5 And alwayes night and day, hee was in the mountaines,
    and in the tombes, crying, and cutting himselfe with stones.
    6 But when hee saw Iesus afarre off, he came and worshipped him,
    7 And cried with a lowd voice, and said, What haue
    I to doe with thee, Iesus, thou Sonne of the most high God?
    I adiure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
    8 (For he said vnto him, Come out of the man, thou vncleane spirit.)
    9 And he asked him, What is thy name?
    And hee answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.
    10 And hee besought him much, that he would not send
    them away out of the countrey.
    11 Now there was there nigh vnto the mountaines a great herd of swine, feeding.
    12 And all the deuils besought him, saying,
    Send vs into the swine, that we may enter into them.
    13 And forthwith Iesus gaue them leaue.

    And the vncleane spirits went out, and entred
    into the swine, and the herd ranne violently downe
    a steepe place into the sea (they were about two thousand)
    and were choked in the sea.
    14 And they that fed the swine fled,
    and tolde it in the citie, and in the countrey
    . And they went out to see what it was that was done.
    15 And they come to Iesus, and see him that
    was possessed with the deuill, and had the Legion,

    sitting, and clothed, and in his right minde: and they were afraid.
    16 And they that saw it, tolde them how
    it befell to him that was possessed with the deuill,
    and also concerning the swine.
    17 And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts.
     
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    Ana not Eva?
     
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    Yes. Ana Mendez.

    @ Ed

    How do you know that multiples are basically demons?
    The man had many demons inside of him but I don't know if this can be compared to multiple personalities.
    I don't know if the symptoms of multiple personalities fit together with demons.
    There are so called exorcism experts which claim that multiple personalities need to be saved, too. They also have to accept Jesus. But this sounds very strange to me. But if they are demons then why do they respond to medicine? Why can such things be treated with pills when it's a spiritual phenomenon?
     
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    xdx, I haven't heard about them and don't need to. I have heard about God, his sacrifice, his offer of salvation. That is important, not those engaged in spiritual warfare. Once I realize what he has done for me I only need to follow him for the rest of my life. I only need to trust him to lead me in paths of righteousness. Let them do their walking or marching or whatever. You look to God for answers. You aren't going to find answers to the kinds of questions you ask in these forums.:wavey:
     
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    Hi xdisciplex,

    I've heard of C Peter Wagner, but not Eva Mendez. I'd be very wary of Wagner, he is part of the "New Apostolic Reformation", you can read about that at www.apologeticsindex.org or www.deceptioninthechurch.com

    A good book on spiritual warfare is The Invisible War: What Every Believer Needs to Know About Satan, Demons, and Spiritual Warfare by Chip Ingram.
     
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    The description of Legion in the Gospels and Multiple Personality Disorder are two wholly different things.

    Dismissing individuals with genuine mental illnesses out-of-hand as "demon posessed" is not a valid demonstration of Christlike love.
     
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    Ana has an ordained Prophetic Apostolic Ministry. She is originally from Mexico, now resides in Jacksonville, Florida and is married to Emerson Ferrell.She was saved in 1985, while she was confined in a mental hospital after having been a voodoo priestess. The miraculous power of God totally delivered her and transformed her into one of His generals for leading His army to destroy the works of evil.

    Ana has started several churches in Mexico City and is now overseer for 18 churches and numerous ministries worldwide.She has worked as Morris Cerullo's representative in Mexico for the last 13 years. She also serves as a Special Task Force Coordinator and conference speaker for several world prayer initiatives at Global Harvest Ministries presided over by Dr. Peter Wagner and part of the International Coalition of Apostles also led by Dr. Peter Wagner.

    Ana's personally holds conferences throughout the world as well as coordinating the Spiritual Warfare Network in the nation of Mexico. She is under the covering of Dr. Rony Chaves from Costa Rica, with whom she is also an associate minister and conference speaker.

    As a general in spiritual warfare, she has coordinated many of the most important prayer initiatives in the darkest places of the earth, confronting major territorial spirits. The most difficult assault that she undertook was the climbing of Mount Everest in 1997. The result of that has been major breakthroughs in the 10/40 window. She was also the special task coordinator for operation "Queens Palace", which was the first worldwide prayer initiative that involved almost 75% of the nations in the world to war against a dominion of darkness known as the Queen of heaven.

    Ana ministers around the world in more than 40 nations training the army of God to tear down the strongholds of evil and usher in the glory of God.
     

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