9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him. 10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life Interesting couple of statements. It seems certain that Paul is writing from the standpoint of between something which has already taken place and something which has (or had) not. Twice he says "having been" and twice he says "we shall be" Having been justified, having been reconciled. These seem to be denoting the same effect, that our sins are no longer counted against us. Do you see them that way or two distinct benefits of Christ's death? We shall be...what? That's ultimately my question. Saved from the wrath of God. Saved by His life. Do you think these denote the same thing or two distinct "shall be"s? When do you think this (or these) shall be?