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Hello I am a Christ follower

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by tinytim, Apr 27, 2007.

  1. webdog

    webdog Active Member
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    I think since you work in an office environment, you are equating all "work environments" with yours. I don't need to shave where I work. I could wear sweats, too, if I wanted. For the self employed, you can work in your underwear...for the construction worker, ripped up jeans is in order, for the professional football player, helmet and shoulder pads are required, etc.
    What one wears while gathered with other Christians to worship God is really a moot point. A lack of suit and tie doesn't equal disrespect, nor does wearing a suit and tie equal being a pharisee. It's the attitude behind both that counts, not what is worn.
     
  2. donnA

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    So what then do you think seperates the two, a mere christian from a 'Christ follower'?
    We can't say either one was right about their approach, nor was either one right or wrong about which clothing they chose to wear.
     
  3. donnA

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    My husband works in concrete factory, he makes those big flower pots and fountains, and statues out of cement. They get dirty and grimy, oil and concrete stuck all over them, they wear whatever, and shave if they want too. It's an extememly hot and heavy job, no one worries about what they wear. Our whole area is very casual in dress, the only people who dress up regularly are those who are professionals or work in offices, and even there some wear jeans and tennis shoes. I guess it depends on the culture you live in, and in some cases, the one you chose for yourself.
     
  4. tinytim

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    I was wondering about that also...
    Is there a movement that want's to change the terminology from Christian to Christ follower?

    In my mind, they are synomi...synonmy....you know, the same thing!! :thumbs:

    Although, Christ follower seems to speak more toward discipleship than a name to go by...
     
  5. donnA

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    Thats what I've been seeing, drawing a line, between those who feel moe spiritual and those they deem not as spiritual. We've seen it here before, there being a difference between regular christians and 'Christ followers'.
    The bible calls us Christians.
     
  6. tinytim

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    The Bible calls Christ's followers "Christians"

    But in today's world, a Christian can mean many things...
    The definition has been lost in society.

    People think a Christian is someone born to Christian parents...
    Or were raised in church automatically makes them one...
    Or other countries view the US as a Christian nation...
    Or if you were sprinkled as a baby...
    Or if you attend church...

    So, there has to be a line drawn somewhere to help people see that just because someone calls themselves "Christian" they may or may not be.

    That line has to be drawn to point people back to the right definition of a Christian...

    In order to be a Christian you have to truly be a Christ follower...
    You have to
    Know Christ as savior.
    Grow as his disciple,
    and Go to tell others...

    Oh, and just being a member of a church does not make you a christian...
    (Just thought of that...lol)
     
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    I guess to me, the difference is - where is their focus? Is it on the others and how everyone else is not as good a "Christian" as they are (thus like the Pharasees) or is it on Christ and on how we can better follow Him? Of course, we need to correct a brother or sister when they're in sin - but to correct a brother or sister on something that is NOT a sin, then I think we need to figure out if it's something that God really focuses on or not.
     
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    At the end of the video it says "Christian no more". What is the point of that?
     
  9. Allan

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    Here is an interesting take. Go back and read some of the comments left by Christians and anti-Christians alike.

    That was an eye opener.
     
  10. donnA

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    It doesn't matter what people think of a christian as being(for this topic I mean), what matters is what does the bible say. we can not change what the bible says according to how our society sees it. You said, the bible calls 'Christ followers' christians, then we're called christians by God.
     
  11. amity

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    I am not sure the Bible does call us "Christians." Doesn't it just say "They were called Christians first at Antioch." ? The Bible calls us "disciples," "believers," etc.

    On the dress issue, I think dress is just like any other form of etiquette. It is about how one behaves vis-a-vis community standards. If some of you live in a culture where sweats are considered polite dress, then that is different. Where I live it would be considered hard on other folks' eyeballs (and therefore disrespectful) to go to church dressed that casually, that's all I meant. I didn't know other places did that.

    Okay, I checked and in the KJV at least, there are only three instances of the word "Christian."

    Acts 11:26
    And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

    Acts 26:28
    Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.

    1 Peter 4:16
    Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.​

    There are 255 instances of the term "disciples/s".
     
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    God is the author of the bible, and it says we are christians. If He didn't want it in there it wouldn't be there.
     
  13. amity

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    I agree that the term "Christian" is scriptural, Donna. Would you agree that the term "disciple" is preferable?
     
  14. tinytim

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    Christian was first used as a slur.
    I believe before we were called Christians we were called disciples... those that followed Christ...or Christ followers..

    No matter what you choose to call yourself, if you are born-again, you are saved, and can be called righteous, or even the redeemed...

    If I remember my church history right, before we were called Christians our title was "the way".

    And it does matter what people think the term Christian means... you can't have proper communication if you disagree on the meaning of the words that are being spoken.

    Mormons call themselves Christians...
    Are they Christ followers?... no...

    What about RCCS... again called Christians
    Are they Christ followers?...no...

    What about other denominations that say they are Christian but teach a distorted view of salvation... are they Christ followers?



    For instance if a person tells me they are a Christian today, it means nothing to me if I am out soul-winning.. I want to know what they mean..
    I could walk away thinking they meant the same thing as I and the Bible mean... only to miss an opportunity to witness to a lost soul.
    They may mean they were baptized as an infant and in their mind, they are saved...but when they go to Hell, then what?

    Do you see how important the meaning of words are?
     
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    I like disciple better then 'Christ follower'.
     
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    Tim, 'Christ follower' may oly mean those who follow Christ. But in this video it was used to seperate christians, some are ebtter christians then others, theh here on the board some were called pharisees, depending on their dress.
    Thats where my problem is.
    And what did they mean at the end, 'christian no more'?
     
  17. tinytim

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    I wish i knew what that refers to...
    I don't.
     
  18. JamieinNH

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    These videos were done for their service. Christian no more probably was the title of their series. From their website, it looks like their titles are similar.

    I would imagine that if we listened to the series these videos went with, it would make more sense.

    Jamie

    I just went to their website and found this. It's the blurb they put up on they site before this series started:

    On Sunday, October 15, we’ll introduce for the first time publicly an opportunity to help the next 5,000 people find[​IMG] their way back to God! We’re calling this opportunity NEXT which begins with a much-needed expansion to our Naperville – Yellow Box facility and continues with every existing location reproducing within the next five years. As you can see from the pictures, the expansion in Naperville is underway but far from complete.
    [​IMG]We’ll explore what it means to be a part of NEXT in the series we’re calling Christian No More. In this series we’ll shatter the myths about what it means to be “Christian” and set our sights on following Christ as we reach the next 5,000 people. I hope you’ll join us for what’s NEXT!
     
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    To me it seemed to make a statement something like "We are not just going to be denominational Christians" or "just mere Christians in name only. " "We are going to be true Christ followers." That's my interpretation, not necessarily theirs.
     
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    to me it was saying the suited guy was less of a christian because he looked different.
     
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