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  1. RubberDuckie17

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    Hi, everybody!

    I'm new to the board. And I'm a senior in highschool. I'm looking a lot at colleges right now. Two in particular - Crown College in Tenn. and Heartland in Oklahoma - both Baptist Bible colleges. However, I really don't know much about either and since I live in Florida there's not much of a chance for me visting either.

    So if anybody knows anything about either - good and bad - I'd really appreciate it. I'm trying to make an informed decision so anything you could tell me would be just great.

    Thanks, everybody!
    ~the lil rubba duckie~
     
  2. Jodo Kast

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    Welcome to BB, I am new too. But they have been nice to me. no worries.

    Well I know nothing of either of those colleges. you might try looking at Charleston Southern University. they are baptist, and they are closer to you. www.csuniv.edu
     
  3. North Carolina Tentmaker

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    Welcome RD

    Tell us a little more about yourself. What do you want to study? What are your career/life goals. Why are you interested in these two schools in particular? How conservative/liberal are you?

    I have visited Crown before. It is a fairly conservative school. I think they are Biblically sound although I have had some personal problems in the past with Clarence Sexton that would prevent me from recommending Crown without some reservations.

    There are a number of excellent schools closer to you. Within Florida you have Trinity in Jacksonville (http://www.tbc.edu/), and Clearwater in Tampa (http://www.clearwater.edu/), both of which I would recommend, Trinity if you are going into ministry and Clearwater if you want a more rounded liberal arts education. Pensacola is of course in Florida. You can find a fair amount of discussion about them here. There are definitely some problems there but they are closer to you and a good value if price is a big consideration.

    My favorite school is Bob Jones in Greenville SC(http://www.bju.edu/). Again you can find a fair amount of controversy about them. I am SBC and more liberal than Bob Jones on many issues but I still love that school. My wife is a BJ alum and we use their home school material. I went to a large state college and I have visited many conservative Christian colleges. For the wide range of majors and quality of education I don't think you can beat Bob Jones. It definitely has a "big college" feal to the campus. Oh it is not perfect, but if I was a high school senior today that is where I would go. You should contact them and arrange a visit. Most schools have special visitation days where you can stay in the dorm, audit some classes, and spend time with current students.

    This is an important decision for you and I am glad you are taking it seriously.
     
  4. superdave

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    In florida I would also recommend Clearwater, we have several students there from our church, and one of the VP's came from our church as well. I would not recommend Pensacola, cheap perhaps, but do a search on Pensacola on this board if you want to see discussions on the issues there. The thread currently on this topic is off topic, but earlier in the pages it was actually about pensacola.

    As far as anywhere else. I would also recommend Maranatha in Wisconsin. www.mbbc.edu It is a great school, high quality academics, and solid Bible program. I graduated from there several years ago. BJ is fine as well, not necessarily Baptist, but it is a fundamentally sound school. The entire pastoral staff of my church attended there, and it seems to have worked out OK for them [​IMG]
     
  5. Greg Linscott

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    I've been to visit Clearwater, and I would too affirm that it would be a good choice. If you live in Tampa, you might also find it would be a good value for you, becuase they accept Florida and Federal student aid and grants. When we visited, the admissions counselor told us there was quite a bit of money available for Florida residents.

    If you really want to see the other two schools, you should ask your pastor about the possibility of a church-sponsored campus visit- perhaps to Crown and a couple other schools he would recommend, so that you could compare their programs and make a better-informed decision. I would strongly recommend finding a way to make a campus visit to wherever you are contemplating attending. Brochures and such cannot give you the whole picture.
     
  6. amazinglove92

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    I have been to Crown and... I didn't like it.
    I. The food was terrible! :(
    II. The atmosphere was a stuffy.
    III. When I went down there it was really hot! Now I am a Michigan boy so you wouldn't understand.
    IV. I don't like colleges being underneath local church they tend to miss use the students so that the church can grow. (I am looking at you Hyles)
    V. The sidewalks where really curvy and weird.
    I got dizzy. :D ( actually that was a plus!)

    Well that is just my opinion. Pray about it.

    Matt
    Good Luck!
    Oh Yeah there is always Northland Bible Baptist College up in Dunbar, Wisconisn. Nice and cool. Friendly people accreditied. Good Place. Think about it.
     
  7. RubberDuckie17

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    Well, okay about myself... uh.. okay..

    I'm a senior in highschool and I believe God has called me to go into foreign missions. I come from a very conservative background, you know, 'independent fundamental baptist.' For instance, my church and school each believe that women in the ministry (or really any women at all) shouldn't wear pants, ect. That is not my conviction per se; I believe in modesty, but abide by their standards. Anyway, that was just an example.

    In answer to all of your suggestions about other colleges. Firstly, I would like to go to a Bible college, not a Christian college. Believe it or not, there is a difference.

    And yes, I know well about many of the other schools mentioned. I have personally written more than 30 of the top Bible or Christian colleges in the nation and have stacks of information from each of them on a shelf in my room. However, like Greg mentioned, a brochure can only tell you so much about a school.

    One of the ladies in charge of student dorms at Clearwater is a member of our church so she will often bring a dozen or so of the students with her to services. I also have some other contact with the college. And personally, I think they have a great staff, but the student body as a whole seems to be spiritually cold. As I said however, that is only my very humble opinion.

    In reference to Trinity and Pensacola, I have visited both campuses and actually I really liked Trinity's atmosphere and ect., but my pastor does not reccommend it because they are more lax than they used to be, standards-wise, you know. I still really liked Trinity.

    Pensacola, not so much. I know many Pensacola alumni and I have some buddies who just left for there coupla weeks ago for their freshmen year. But antyway, I know more of Pensacola than I think I ever want to know.

    To Matt: No offense, but arent' those rather petty reasons to dislike a college? Food, weather, and sidewalks? And I do personally believe that a college should be under the authority of the local church. You know, like a church ministry. Thank you for replying though.

    The thing I guess I'm really asking for is your reservations, say about Mr. Clarence Sexton and Mr. Sam Davison or their colleges. What I really want to know is their spiritual temperature from people who are or have been there. How are the students? How's the preaching? How's the missions program? Do they have a great staff but poor student spirit (spiritually)?

    That's the kind of stuff I'm trying to figure out.

    I'm so sorry for typing a book, but I felt I had to adress all this stuff. Hope ya'll know me a lil better now. [​IMG] Hope I didn't miss anything. And thank you very much...

    Lata,
    Joyce


    "The Greatest Way to Make a Difference is to BE the Difference"
     
  8. amazinglove92

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    ( Matt quietly shuts his mouth on the issue of colleges.) [​IMG]
     
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    Well, I am really familiar with West Coast Baptist College (in Lancaster, CA), but I don't know if that's too far from home for you. I have personally been there 4 times. The students are really great and on fire for God, as is the faculty. It has nice facilities and it's growing. They really love God there, and are IFB. Preaching is great, too.

    The only downside is the rules can be overbearing to someone not used to them (girls have to wear skirts, etc), but it's not really any tougher than Pensacola. Plus, you said that you know that kind of lifestyle, so it's all good!

    Becca
     
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    Who runs Heartland in Oklahoma?
     
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    RubberDuckie,

    I have visited Crown and I know some students there. I highly recommend Crown College as a school to prepare young men for the ministry. It is a Local Church Ministry that has the primary purpose of training people for ministry, A True Bible College. As far as Pastor Sexton is concerned. He is a very Godly man and has a tremendous heart for people. You would be well trained if you went to Crown.

    I have heard wonderful things about Heartland and the people there, but I have no first hand knowledge of that.
     
  12. Kidz-4-HIM

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    Amen Pastor J!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I have been to Crown twice. Both visits were GREAT!!! I VERY highly recommend Crown.
    In fact Lord willing I will be going there myself next year. I to am a senior.

    Cline
     
  13. Greg Linscott

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    I know they're a little ways away, but...

    Faith Baptist Bible College, Ankeny, Iowa http://www.faith.edu

    and Northland and Maranatha (already mentioned) are wondeful choices for missions and ministry training. Faith Baptist Bible College (my alma mater) is the school sending the most new candidates into foreign missions through Baptist Mid-Missions. They have wonderful and substantial scholarships available for missions majors as well. A different flavor, perhaps, than the southern counterparts you mentioned, but in my experience, a lot less about personalities and a lot more emphasis on the things that matter.

    Dr. Robert Delnay, now at Clearwater, was a prof for many years at Faith. My wife used to help Mrs. Delnay in the library before they left for Florida.

    By the way- I visited Clearwater with my youth group (I was a youth pastor) a couple of years back. I understand how you might make the conclusion you have about the student body.

    I also visited Crown on the same trip- different atmosphere than I was used to. I was not at all crazy about the "shrine" to Curtis Hutson, and all the name dropping of "close personal friends of Dr. Sexton" that our tour guide offered... but again, that's a matter of preference and style of ministry, I suppose.
     
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    A friend of mine attended there last year for one semester, and than transferred to Maranatha, the above reason is one that he listed. He also as a side bonus played football in HS, so has really enjoyed playing football for Christian coaches. It was a totally new experience since he went to public school, and he has been really impressed with the students at MBBC, which I consider to also be a true Bible College, whatever is meant by that statement! It even has Bible College in the name!
     
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    Crown college is a great college. I am also considering that college (I'm a senior too) I visited crown last year. I loved the atmosphere and the fact that Pastor Sexton is very big on standards and all. THey are finishing up a brand new building as well. I know people that are attending crown right now. They love it and it as great college...
     
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    Heritage Baptist University, Greenwood, IN is good college because of being more humble.
     
  17. amazinglove92

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    I noticed the "shrine" to, Greg. And that was kinda weird. It reminded me of the Hyles "shrine", but not as bad.
    I wouldn't call it preference and matter of style though I would call it... I was going to say idoltotry, but that wouldn't be very tactful now would it. So I will call it man-centered.
    There that works better. Now no one can be mad at me. I feel better. :D

    Matt
     
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    I am currently a student at Ambassador Baptist College. I recommend it to you if you are at all interested in going into the ministry.
    It is very much Baptist and takes a great stand on the Word of God.

    www.ambassadors.edu
     
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    I would recommend Ambassador, too! I used to live right around the corner from it (small world!).

    Becca
     

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