History teacher preaches in class

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  1. npc

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/18/n...4af1e13cc&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

    What's disappointing about this story is how many students and adults side with the teacher in using class time to advance his religion. Christianity is not being persecuted in this country.
     
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    Yet for every instance of prostelytizing I can show you one of suppression of free speech by authorities. It goes both ways, npc...kind of like that first amendment...
     
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    Most "persecution" I see of Christianity is overreaction by Christians upset that they're getting equal treatment. On the other hand, there's a lot of Christianity embedded in US laws that people tend not to even think about (Blue laws, for example).

    As I already said, though, what disturbs me about this is the amount of complacency and siding with the teacher, who is obviously wrong.
     
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    Very odd logic indeed. There was a time when Biblical ideals were taught in the public schools, (as they are funded by taxpayers who were at the time a majority Christian). Now, obviously different today, with the seperation of church and state, but your logic about complacency is backwards.

    Complacency is not in the fact of supporting the teacher, complacency is in the fact that Christians let the schools get the way they are today over the past several decades.
     
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    Which was bad reasoning. Just because most people enjoy it doesn't mean everyone's taxes should pay for it.

    Public schools leave much to be desired, but how is it not complacent to support something that is rightfully illegal?
     
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    It's not just that, but the kids are forced to attend his class. He said one of the students, a Muslim girl, was going to Hell.


    The complaining kid has received a death threat. :eek:
     
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    Excellent post, saturneptune! You hit the nail on the head! Amen!
     
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    Very insightful post that shows how open-minded you are. You're clearly listening to both sides and not just cheerleading whoever agrees with you.

    Edit: Daisy, i tried to respond to your earlier PM but your inbox was full.
     
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    Daisy's very "popular". :smilewinkgrin:

    FYI, I don't agree with the teacher. He has no business telling anyone they are going to hell, nor telling kids that dinosaurs were on the ark.

    Frankly, it sounds like the guy does not even have his theology straight. Even if I didn't mind him teaching about the bible in school, I would not like the unfounded, incorrect things he is teaching them about the bible.

    The man was hired to teach history, so teach history. If he wants to make biblical history a part of the lesson, I don't have a big beef with that, but he has taken the lesson way past pure history.
     
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    btw, being the good boy that I am, I probably would have had to challenge Mr. Re-writer of Biblical Theology to an open debate.

    I wonder if he would have accepted, or just failed me?

    I did tell my Christianity professor in college that he was wrong about Christ being capable of sin. He didn't want me to speak, so I walked and didn't go back. Thankfully, he gave me an Incomplete, rather than an F.

    If I had children in his class, I would not want them having to sit through the junk he is feeding his class.
     
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    Any teacher who would say one of his students was going to Hell is unfit to be a teacher or to be trusted with the care of children.

    A civilized society would revoke his certfication and make sure he was not permitted to teach again.
     
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    If she remains a muslim, he is correct.

    But it is not his place as a teacher to tell her so in class.
     
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    For a Christian, no child is going to Hell for being a Muslim, since invincible ignorance applies in such cases.

    If one becomes aware that Christ is God, and still persists in being a Muslim, then one risks Hell. Not before.

    God saves all who give themselves to Him, even if they are mistaken about Him.
     
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    Faulty theology.
     
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    So is yours.
     
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    Glad to see you all aren't resorting to "nah-nah-nah-nah-boo-boo" tactics.

    (Note: the use of sarcasm in the body of this message has been approved). :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

    So there!:tongue3:
     
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    Look at all the tolerance here for a dissenting opinion. The teacher was supposed to teach history, just history, but he had to go and use his classroom to preach his beliefs.

    It's usually some lefty doing this, why public schools don't teach subjects like history much anymore.
     
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    I guess in your world, everone guilty of any offence is "some lefty."

    Let me know when you come back to reality!
     
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    Jesus said to him, I am the Way and the Truth and the Life; no one comes to the Father except through Me. John 14:6. Muslims don't believe that passage. They believe Jesus (called Isa) was a prophet but not the Son of God. The Koran says that God does not have a son and that Jesus was not crucified. There is no doctrine in the Bible about "invincible ignorance." :confused:
     
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