How about some book reviews of various books on Bible versions!

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by Spoudazo, Feb 13, 2005.

  1. Spoudazo

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    Ok, I wasn't sure if I should put this here or in the other part of the board, but I guess here is fine.

    I'd just like to give a few book reviews on the subject of Bible translations.

    _The King James Only Controversy_
    Author: Dr. James R. White

    This book is one of my favorite. I have read it, however I often find myself referring back to it time and time again because of the amount of information that one cannot possibly digest with one read. I will probably soon read it again since it has been about 2-3 years since I read it last.
    The information in this book is very scholarly, the way in which it was written makes it an "easy" read and not dry as so many other books. Dr. White is a textual consultant for the NASB translation so you'll find him mentioning it several times. It has a very useful index in the back that will help you when trying to find out what he says about various topics.

    _The King James Version Debate_
    D. A. Carson is also an excellent author. This little book packs a lot of information and yet it all put about 123 pages. It is a little dated (copyright 1979) but is still a very useful book on the subject.
    If you have read any other books by bro. Carson, you'll probably agree that he is willing to admit when he is wrong. For example, in his book _Exegetical Fallacies_ he even pointed out fallacies he had in different books he has written.
    This book takes you through a short history of the Bible, reasons with you as well, and also (most importantly) discusses various passages of scripture.

    _From the Mind of God to the Mind of Man_
    Various conservative authors.
    This book is also an interesting book. It has a lot of valuable information from history, scripture, and various fundamentalist leaders of our day and recent years. The "sequel" to this book (if you call it that) is _God's Word in our Hands_ which is also a good book. I started reading it recently but am not quite done yet as it is a larger book than the first one. Most of the men of these two books are associated with Bob Jones University (www.bju.edu).

    _The Facts on the King James Only Debate_
    John Ankerberg and John Weldon.

    This book has been around for a few years It is a little slimlinte book, about the size of a slimeline pocket Bible you would carry around while on visitation/witnessing. I just bought this one so I haven't read it yet, but skimming through it it looks promising indeed.

    _One Bible Only?_
    Various authors.

    This book is a good one as well. However, I didn't enjoy this one nearly as much as White's book, so honestly I have forgotten most of its content [​IMG] There have been some questions on the views of one of the authors of this book (something to do with inerrancy or something along those lines) but I haven't ascertained whether it was true or not.

    _New Age Bible Versions_
    G.A. Riplinger

    This book needs no introduction, does it? [​IMG]

    This book has been in the middle of a lot of controversy every since it was published. Since then it has been edited a few times for various errors. I'll just summarize and say fallacies of fact, reason, etc. abound in this book. G.A. Riplinger *means* well but in the end, I think she did nothing but hurt the body of Christ rather than edify it. Not to mention one may question whether she should be taking the role she has been taking (*cough* 1 Tim. 2:12). I was raised around this book (I'm just a youngin at 21 years old) so I have seen several reactions to it.
    If you go here,
    http://truthseekers.8m.com/KJVONLY/kjvsounds.html
    You can listen to her and James White debate on the translation issue and her book as well. Every since this debate happened, she has said she'll never do another debate :eek:

    _Final Authority_
    Dr. William P. Grady

    Some may like this book due to the authors way of writing. He does a good job of keeping your attention at times and has a lot of information to consider. A lot of his reasoning is sound, but then at times he sorta takes varoius things "too far." I have heard him preach at a church and I also have several of his tapes (on the KJV only issue and other issues ranging from personal sanctification to God's will for one's life). I think he too means well, but his adoration of Jack Hyles shows through in his beliefs and demeanor.

    _Revision Revised_
    The late John W. Burgon

    Oh my how I love this book! :D He has a ton of information ranging from patristic quotations to other historical sources. He reasons quite well, knows Greek in and out (or knew [​IMG] ). He has a different view than most regarding the various Greek texts and is a "fan" of the Majority text rather than the TR or eclectic text(s). He admits the KJV and TR have issues, but at the same time he showed many issues with various reasonings from Westcott and Hort and their textual theories. While Westcott and Hort in this day is almost a moot subject, it is still helpful in various areas. I believe this book has helped me find a more balanced view of the textual choices that are offered today in various Greek New Testaments.

    Well, I was planning on writings some reviews of some of Dr. D.A. Waite's books and varoius other books, but I need to go for now.

    Feel free to write your own reviews, ask questions, make comments, etc.

    in Christ,
    Spoudazo,
    2 Timothy 2:15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, handling accurately the word of truth.
     
  2. Askjo

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    I read these books. These authors are wrong because their books are not scholarly.
     
  3. David J

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    I read these books. These authors are wrong because their books are not scholarly.

    Proof please Askjo! I've read these books also and I found them very useful.

    I guess that Riplinger, Ruckman, Gipp, Fuller, etc are scholarly! Ummm right! LOL!!!!!
     
  4. natters

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    I nominate this post for some sort of award. [​IMG]
     
  5. BruceB

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    I enjoyed reading Essential Guide to Bible Versions by Philip W. Comfort, published by Tyndale. He certainly leans to the NIV and the NLT but covers all major English translations in his book. Bruce
     
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    I have always been a KJV man. A few years back I was reconsidering the whole issue attempting to approach it fresh with an open mind. One of the books I bought was White. It drove me back to the KJV.
     
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    Last Oct-Nov i discussed Gail Riplinger's
    IN AWE OF THY WORD (AV Pubs, 2003) at:

    http://www.baptistboard.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/4/1976.html?

    Now I am discussing AWE at:

    http://www.baptistboard.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/28/3058.html?

    But let me give a short review:

    Title: IN AWE OF THY WORD
    Subtitle: Understanding the King James Bible
    Its MYSTERY & HISTORY Letter by Letter.
    Publisher: AV Publications Corp
    (Check them out at wwp://www.avpublications.com
    Copyright: 2003

    This compares other English Bibles which predate the
    KJV and shows how the KJV is better. She
    still doesn't recognize multiple KJVs and
    multiple TRs (look at what TR means: Textus Receptus,
    isn't that Latin plural words?)

    But mostly she find inane patterns, the moral equivalent
    of searching for the BVM (blessed Virgin Mary) in
    the light patterns on screen doors.

    My hang up with Sister G.A. Riplinger is that she
    never says anything good about any version other
    than her unspecified KJB. I find many good Bibles
    and Versions in the English language. I just happen
    to prefer the ones that are in the English of Today
    (the year is 2005 for those who have not checked their
    calendar lately ;) )

    BTW, Sister Gail got hold of some advance
    copies of the Holman Christian Standard
    Bible (HCSB) which was copyrighted later
    in 2003 than AWE. Of course, she only mentiones
    it when it offends her.
     
  8. HankD

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    Uh, wouldn't that be Texti Recepti Bro Ed?

    HankD
     
  9. Spoudazo

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    You think you're really going to get away with that statement [​IMG]

    That's like saying, "Riplinger doesn't write good books because she wears glasses."

    "Say what?" Exactly, it "doesn't follow" (i.e.- non sequitur)
     
  10. Pastor Larry

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    I nominate this post for some sort of award. [​IMG] </font>[/QUOTE]We could start with the award for bad logic ... being scholarly has no necessary relation between right adn wrong. If they are wrong, it is not because they are not scholarly. One can be scholarly and wrong.

    However, in this particular case, Askjo is just plain wrong. The books are correct.
     
  11. 4His_glory

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    "I read these books. These authors are wrong because their books are not scholarly."- Askjo

    Ummm, so is anything you disagree with not scholarly?
     
  12. Askjo

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    David J, go to the topic, "Harold B. Sightler, John R. Rice, and other great fundamentalists and KJV-onlyism." Look at posts by tbc1611.

    tbc1611 answered on James R. White.
     
  13. Askjo

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    James R. White is not scholarly to say, "inspired authors" because NOWHERE in the Bible said God inspired authors instead of His Words.
     
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    Askjo, I believe that YOU were asked for proof not tbc1611.
     
  15. David J

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    In all due respect Askjo he did not answer James White's book. Whites does a good job exposing the KJVO myth with examples and problem verses in the KJV.

    I read the book Askjo. [​IMG]
     
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    Are you afraid of refuting tbc1611? TBC1611 and I agree that James R. White is not scholarly.
     
  17. Askjo

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    I marked James' book and refuted his comments. Ankerberg also.
     
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    Askjo,

    I am not afraid to debate anyone about what I believe. But YOU were the one who was asked to prook his statments, so don't hind under the cloak of another. I asked you a question to which you did not answer, so I will ask it again, do you claim every book you disagree with to be lacking in scholarship?

    If you refuted James' book why don't you post your refutations of it, or stop questioning his scholarship simply because you do not agree with what he says.
     
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    I do not buy his rationalistic scholarship. Scholarolatry
    I answered to other poster, Pastor Larry.
     
  20. David J

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    Askjo,

    James White had a debate with D.A. Waite. It's on White's website. D.A. White did not do very well in that debate. Go to the archives and look for KJVO. I truly feel the same would apply to you "if" you would ever post your "proof" for me to read. Like I said before, I have KJVO Contra by James White. I have it in my study and I can easily research whatever evidence you present.

    Ankerberg hosted a debate with some leading KJVOist some years back. The KJVOist in that debate looked rather ignorant when facts slammed their myth hard. I thought the whole thing about Lucifer was rather hilarious when the KJVOist was amazed to find out what Lucifer means and the origin of the word. [​IMG]

    In the adult world Askjo we require proof when one makes such statements. Either post your evidence or correct yourself.
     

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