How and when did KJVO start?

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  1. npetreley

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    Who started the idea that the KJV was given by some special inspiration? On what basis was this conclusion argued? I know there must be plenty of web sites on this, but I wouldn't know where to start when it comes to reliable web sites.

    In addition, are there similar O-isms for other languages? Is there a French equivalent to KJVO-ism, where some French translation is specially inspired, but all other French translations are inferior? If not, then how do KJVO people explain that God gave a specially inspired English version but not a specially inspired version in other languages?
     
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    You may want to check the BB archives because we've been down this road (the 'origins of KJVO') in the past year at least once.

    BTW - Yes, there are other O-isms. Some Catholic-types believe that their first English translation, the Douai-Rheims 1st Edition, is the only perfect translation. Of course, the Latin version was the only one recognized by the RC church for centuries.
     
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    Thanks. As to the other O-isms, the one you cite is still English. Are there any other O-isms for other languages? I don't think Latin counts - I mean native (living) languages. ;)
     
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    The instant God spoke and wasn't ever confused about what He said.
     
  5. npetreley

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    I have no idea what you're saying here. Are you saying the KJVO was dictated directly to the "translators" by God and not translated from some other text (like the TR)?
     
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    I believe rather that God has His word preserved and without error and is also God enough to overcome the insertion of misleading and corrupt MSS.

    You either have the inspired word of God or you have a god who is incapable of preserving His word.

    Many would argue the Lord preserved His word in multiple contradictory versions. God is not a multiplicital being contradicting himself ever so often.:wavey:
     
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    Actually, KJVO started when a 7TH DAY ADVENTIST official, Dr. Benjamin Wilkinson, published a 1930 book, Our Authorized Bible Vindicated, which is largely a collection of earlier individual ideas which later became part of the KJVO doctrine.

    In all fairness to W, he wrote his book in response to an internal squabble within his cult & was not trying to start a new doctrine. That was brought about by the Koppie-Katt authors who found his book.

    Most of these ideas are errors. For example, let's look at the "Psalm 12:6-7 thingie", which says V7 is about the preservation of God's words. The AV1611 itself proves this idea wrong in its marginal notes. And JUST WHERE in this Psalm is the KJV mentioned ???????????????

    Later authors such as "J, J, Ray" (whoever that is/was), Dr. Peter Ruckman, Dr. D. O. Fuller, Dr. James Melton, etc. all copied from W's book, & from each other. NONE of them bothered to verify any of the stuff taken from W's book.

    From those early KJVO authors' worx came the stuff of "God-And" Riplinger, Hills, Waite, Marrs, Grady, Reagan, etc. Wilkinson based his book upon the guesswork of others, & the authors who've copied from his book have been guessing ever since.

    KJVO was practically unknown before the late 1950s & certainly wasn't regularly preached! The above can be verified in most boox of 20th century history. It must be noted, however, that some people insist the KJVO doc started in 1881 with the release of the British RV. However, I disagree, as all the research I've ever seen shows the movement was against the RV & not all other English versions in general. It was only after the authors listed above began copying from W's book that the CURRENT KJVO idea that ALL other English versions are corrupt, got started.
     
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  8. Ed Edwards

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    Amen, Brother Salamander -- Preach it! :thumbs:

    That is why I consider it Axiomatic:

    When a contradiction exists within a version
    or between versions: It is NOT GOD who caused it
    - it is people's fault.


    From this I have a very important premesis:

    The function and purpose of the Version/Translation
    Forum of the BB (Baptist Board) is to
    share our understandings of the seeming (but purely
    non-existant) 'contradictions'.
    This can be done best by
    sharing information using the most possible
    translations/versions.
     
  9. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Sorry folks - there is plenty in the archives about KJVOism and this thing is only going to get ugly.

    There is plenty of info available online to answer any questions.

    Going to close this before the inevitable ugliness.
     
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