How can the Arizona Immigration Law be racial profiling ?

Now you're attacking my character. I never just "plug" figures. I'm making a general statement about people. And people generally like their jobs to be easier. If the legislature makes it easier so be it. In my profession I would like more restrictions because this last downturn is an accounting debacle and I don't think sorbanes oxley goes far enough. However, I'm glad for the spreadsheets and accounting programs developed to help me do my Job a lot better and faster thank you which makes it easier.

 

You didn't read my earlier post, did you. Our, my wife and I, are the source of this. It is called experience. ROFL

Read my earlier post again ... carefully.

 

No, I didn't mention your wife's race but its a comment on the probablity on you not having hispanic last name. Also going from stopping to searching are two entirely different matters.

 

You misrepresnt me again. I said I KNOW SOME LEOS and SOME ARE RACIST Others ARE NOT. You didn't pay attention. I'm not saying I'm better than people in general I'm saying its a general statement which is generally applied you can't therefore take it and make its specific. There are LEO's who go above and beyond the call of duty and other do not. Accountants are the same. If this ressession has taught you anything it should be that if accountants can get away with something won't they try? We have a self regulated industry and have tried to be even handed but look at where we are at now. Look at all the games played. How many CFO's got in some serious problems? So the same general rule applies.

 

My example spelled it out. What if for some reason I didn't have documents on me like I was going for a jog and didn't have my wallet on me. It could be a simple oops forgot. And since I can't at this point prove my citizenship what happens. they can search. Or if they were shady they could say even if I did have documentation that it was falsified so that they could search. Either way gives them probable cause.

 

No but they would have to go through more steps before searching and sticking me in jail. Now not so much.

 

They would actually have to go to get a warrent for a search from a judge based on their probable cuase which has to be well articulated. What Leo will do is attempt to search if I say no he has to get a warrent so he calls it in a person at the office has to garner the information type up a report take it before a judge who determines if there is enough to go on for a search and about 2 hours after detaining me they can search if the Judge oks it.

 

Maybe not but when your walking the perimeter of a consentration camp it would be nice for you wave and say hi before hitting me with a batton.

 

They do if I'm in a pickup truck. And even there they have to prove I'm illegal.

 

THinking stuff, they would not have to get a search warrant to search your person. A burg is reported in a certain place and you fit the physical description of the suspect. The LEO now has reasonable suspicion and can absolutely search you, handcuff you, detain you, and have the complainant attempt to identify you as the perp or not the perp. Not trying to be argumentative, but you're incorrect.

 

Again, they don't if you're in a pickup truck. Irrelevant. They can even search your truck for anything in plain view and, if you are arrested and booked, can search your truck completely without a warrant.

 

Also, just be advised I am an active LEO. I know my stuff.

 

Ok. I'm not a LEO. But that was the sense I was given by my friends. There is currently a due process is there not? What happens once I'm not determined to be the perp as you call it? Under arizona law and not unders arizona law? If I don't have ID will they immediately deport me?