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Or we actually have some intelligence and realize that the Bible does not teach YEC any more than it teaches that the earth is flat or that it is the center of the universe.

The Bible does not SAY the earth is 10,000 years old.

Let me repeat that.

The Bible does not SAY the earth is 10,000 years old.

One more time:

The Bible does not SAY the earth is 10,000 years old.

For you to say it does when it doesn't is for you to abuse the Scriptures.

The problem with demanding that the earth is 10000 years old is that it makes Christians look like morons and intelligent people do not want to have anything to do with them.

So the Church, which constantly appeals only to stupider and stupider people, becomes so stupid that it eventually does not exist.

If we would just teach the BIBLE and stop pressing our traditions on it, the world would see that the most brilliant piece of literature in history is the Book of God. Then more intelligent people would fill the church.

But tradition, like YEC and flat-earth and geocentricity keep the church full of stupid people- not because all YEC people are stupid but because YEC is wrong and the more we cling to it while more and more info is coming out to the contrary of it- the stupider we look.

Now, fortunately, the church is not going to cling to YEC much longer. Just like the Church wised up and rejected geocentricity, the Church will wise up and reject YEC.

But its people who love tradition over the Scripture who make that a slow and painful process.

 

There was a "Big-Bang".....it didn't come from nothingness.....(this is where we insert God)......but there ABSOLUTELY was a "Big-Bang"....You are embarrassing Biblical YEC literalists.

 

Nope, on both accounts.

 

There was a "Big-Bang"...........There was.......and it's perfectly Scriptural too.

I didn't say matter came forth from nothingness......nor time, nor space.......

but they had an origin, and it was the "Big-Bang". The "Big-Bang" Yeshua, is the point at which God (who exists above all and beyond all) said...."Let there be"...that's a "Big-Bang".

Time, Matter, Space....all in one Cosmological moment.....doesn't matter if you are an Atheist or a Baptist, every sane man knows about the "Big-Bang".

 

Right. It is interesting that scientists now tell us that the vast majority of dust in our homes is "us". Dust on the mantle consists of dead skin cells.

We are dust. We are made of dust. Not just us. God formed every living creature from out of the ground.

The Bible is PERFECTLY scientifically accurate.

 

Then maybe I misunderstood you...I saw this:

Which isn't you "calling" YEC's stupid........per se...it's until you say this:

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Now...I'm a dumb "YEC" and what-not....but if (as you say) "intelligent" people want nothing to do with "them" (that would be YEC'S)....then forgive me for not seeing how that isn't simply an insult to the intelligence of all YEC's.

The "stupider" people <--- (that's YEC's or anyone who believes them) are what the Church is appealing to?. Ahh...objectively, I would submit that you are (if unintentionally) somewhat simply impugning the intelligence of anyone who maintains a Young Earth Theology.

"Stupider" isn't usually used as a word. I suppose it could be, but, not often.

...................Then more intelligent people would fill the Church........

Meh....I think you're calling us "dumb" dude, sorry. Forgive me for seeing that in your post; but, I think insisting that the "more intelligent" crowd would disagree is nominally the same as calling the opposition (not "dumb")......just "dumber" than anyone who would disagree with them.

 

Theistic evolutionists are not a monolithic movement.

People like Hugh Ross and Michael Horton believe that God made Adam special, different from other creatures which evolved over time.

That there were hominids before Adam is almost surely the case. but Adam was the first of his kind and all human beings descended from him.

 

What recent facts refute the concept of the Big Bang? In fact, the "idea of the Big Bang" did a great deal to bolster and support the theism that you and I cherish.

 

The word is the Hebrew cakak and means to "hedge, fence about, shut in." In short, it means to close off from view. The old KJV translation is a bad translation. The NASB is barely better, making it "wove" but the word does not mean putting anything together, it means shutting it away out of sight. Either way, you're bordering on very dangerous denial of Scripture. If He spoke everything else into existence, why can't He simply speak life into existence in the womb, and superintend it's growth? You're going far out of bounds to deny God's truth, probably without even intending to do so.

There is nothing "silly" about the reading Genesis account literally, and that too borders on denial of biblical truth.

 

IJ,

I do not consider those of YEC to be dummies,.....Not at all. Just so you know.