I just came across the site of this disturbed person (Fred Phelps) and read a "sermon" from him. This one here ( http://www.godhatesfags.com/sermons/outlines/Sermon_20060730.pdf ), where he claims that God doesn't love everybody and that he hates the sinners. He seems to be a firm believe in calvinism. So most likely he thinks that while him and his whole family is chosen others are not chosen and were created for destruction. :laugh: But actually I have also asked myself what kind of attitude God has towards those which go to hell. Is he angry at them? Or does he feel sorry for them? Jesus says in the bible "depart from me you cursed". This doesn't sound like he's sorry for those which go to hell it rather sounds like he's angry. So how do we know that God loves everybody and that he might not also have created humans which he does not love, which are made for destruction? After all God also hated Esau, which Phelps also noticed and which he uses to support his opinion. If God hated Esau and not only hated Esau's sin then why do people say today that God hates the sin but loves the sinner? And what do you say about their statement to the question of God loves everyone? They have a long FAQ at their site where they answer all kinds of questions WITH bible verses. How is this possible that they are able to support their opinion with bible verses making it look as if the bible supports their view?