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How do you discuss Hell and Heaven and ‘counting the cost’ of discipleship With Scare

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Revmitchell, Apr 22, 2008.

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  1. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
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    "How do you discuss Hell and Heaven and ‘counting the cost’ of discipleship in bold, honest, loving truth...yet not use Heaven as a draw card or reward...and not use Hell as a scare tactic. I don't want to have people leaping to Jesus just so they don't get burned, it's not really any different then leaping to Jesus so they'll have a better life is it (humanism -- or the end of being is the happiness of man)? Wouldn't that more than likely create as many false converts?”


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    Methinks that this writer ommitted a critical part of the story; referenced, yes, but not quoted & therefore misleading.
    A very strong motivation for this young man was his painful growling belly, since as long as he had spendable sheckels he was content.

    So his initial motivation to "straighten up & fly right" was purely selfish, tho' it did lead to an acknowledgement of his needed value change.

    So, to answer the question: "How do you discuss Hell and Heaven ----", you don't. You tell the truth concerning both Heaven & Hell, and let the Holy Spirit deal with the recipient of your message as He sees fit. You don't "TRY" to decide whether to "love" him into salvation, or "scare" him into submission.

    Either way, if he comes to Christ the mission is successful.

    Loved into, OR scared into, both are "INTO"; same end product!
     
    #2 just-want-peace, Apr 22, 2008
  3. Jon-Marc

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    If not for the "scare tactic" of hell, why would anyone see any need to be saved? Fear of hell scared me into getting saved, and I know it's real.
     
    #3 Jon-Marc, Apr 23, 2008
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    I agree, where would we go if we didn't accept Christ if there were no hell?

    Then again we should want to serve God, hell shouldn't be the only reason for salvation.

    Jude 1:22-25 (KJV)
    22: And of some have compassion, making a difference:
    23: And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
    24: Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
    25: To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
     
    #4 The Scribe, Apr 23, 2008
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