Isaiah 53: 1Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? 2For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. 3He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. 4Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. 5But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 6All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. 8He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. 9And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. 10Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when hou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. 11He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. 12Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. This has been fulfilled literally He came and was despised and rejected. Crucified for us. Earlier Isaiah had said about Messiah: Isaiah 9: 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this. This has been fulfilled partially and the fulfillment was literal. How would you determine the second part to mean a spiritual fulfillment in 70 A.D. if the first part as we know was literal. Achild was born and it was a son named Jesus. But the balance hasn't been fulfilled. Futurist as you call us believe it will be fulfilled literally. The first part has and Isaiah 53 was a literal fulfillment. What determines the prereist interpretation of a metaphorical (spiritual) fulfillment? Luke 1: 30And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. 31And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. 32He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. 34Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? 35And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. The child was conceived literally. Born and a Son named Jesus came as the Saviour. Did Mary expect that He would reign "spiritually" (metamorically) or did she expect a literal physical reign. Did She expect Him to rule on the Throne of David physiclly or spiritually? How as it conveyed by the Angels, a child would be conceived, He would be great, He is called the Son of the Highest and he would reign over the House of Jacob (Israel) for ever, their would be no end to His Kingdom. So how does a literal conception and Promise of all these things turn into a spiritual fulfillment especially coupled with the Isaiah passages? If God dealt literally at the first Coming will He not also deal literally with the second Coming and therefore 70 A.D could not have been the time He came. Because none of this is being fulfilled today that didn't occur in 3 or so B.C. to 30 A.D. upon His being rejected and crucified.