Yesterday I listened to a debate between Todd from wayofthemaster radio and the infidel guy, an atheist who also has his own radio broadcast. Actually it was very frustrating listening to this debate and I think that debating with atheists is absolutely futile. Todd seemed to me like he wanted to push it through and convince the infidel guy that the resurrection is true but the infidel guy laughed about all his arguments. I ask myself wether these typical christian arguments are really that good. Would they have convinced you as an atheist? Arey they enough to build your faith on them? Or are they rather circular reasoning? It was basically like: infidel guy: Why do you believe in the resurrection? Todd :Because the bible says it. infidel guy: lol, do you also believe that Mohammed flew on the back of a dragon because the quran says it? I isn't it circular reasoning if you want to prove the bible with the bible? The bible says that many people saw Jesus after the resurrection and so on. But other books also say many things. If the quran said that Mohammed was raised and 1000 people saw him then you still wouldn't believe it. You'd be sceptical of it. But you believe the bible. So where is the difference between the bible which says something and other books which say something? I don't think that the argument with the eyewitnesses is that strong because it's also in the bible. All these arguments are IN the bible and if you for example think that the bible has been doctored then all these arguments aren't convincing at all. And then Todd said that the disciples were willing to die for their faith but the other guy replied that muslims also die for their faith and that this doesn't prove anything and actually this is right. People die for a lot of things and people are also willing to believe a lot of things. Many people also believe that Elvis is alive. So I'm asking myself wether you can even convince a person with these kinds of arguments. Maybe people are simply too insecure to put their trust in the bible. If you talk to unbelievers on the internet then you will always hear the same things. The bible has been changed and so on. If they really believe this then it's pretty logical that they won't believe in it anymore. I mean once you've heard that the bible has been changed you cannot believe in it anymore, how could you? Maybe there are many unbelievers out there which would like to believe but they simply can't believe because of all the stuff they have heard.