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How many Americans?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Ed Edwards, Nov 15, 2006.

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How many American lives?

  1. Nobody can really tell

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    60.0%

  2. on the same order as 3

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    30.0%

  3. on the same order as 30

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  4. on the same order as 300

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  5. on the same order as 3,000

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  6. on the same order as 30,000

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  7. on the same order as 300,000

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  8. on the same order as 3 million

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  9. on the same order as 30 million

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  10. 100 million or more

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  1. Daisy

    Daisy New Member

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    Your posts move further and further away from intelligent discourse.
     
    #21 Daisy, Nov 16, 2006
  2. saturneptune

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    Sure they are. Here's your sign.
     
    #22 saturneptune, Nov 16, 2006
  3. tragic_pizza

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    That's very helpful.

    In the future, I will remind Daisy that even the wildest rhetorical question posited by a Bushie must be interpreted as a serious interrogative, requiring careful research and detailed answers.

    :BangHead:
     
    #23 tragic_pizza, Nov 16, 2006
  4. carpro

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    Of course.

    Any subject you don't want to answer directly or deal with honestly is not "intelligent discourse".
     
    #24 carpro, Nov 16, 2006
  5. billwald

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    probably Americans saved = 10% of Iraqui Christians killed.
     
    #25 billwald, Nov 16, 2006
  6. Ed Edwards

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    If so, your answer would be:
    on the same order as 30,000
     
    #26 Ed Edwards, Nov 16, 2006
  7. poncho

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    I'm kind of in a hurry Ed, could we just skip ahead to the last page and see the answer?:)
     
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  8. Ed Edwards

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    No problem :love2:

    ...
    Forty-two (42). :saint:
     
    #28 Ed Edwards, Nov 16, 2006
  9. Daisy

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    Actually, I did answer it seriously (see post #17 of this thread) but carpro, um, mistakenly and persistently* maintains that his poisoned-well question was "unanswered and unaddressed"....oddly enough, just after he quotes my answer. Go figure.


    *persistent was carpro's own choice to describe his action some time ago
     
    #29 Daisy, Nov 16, 2006
  10. Not_hard_to_find

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    I missed the source of "Hulk crush" philosophy. Would you please post it?

    Thanks.
     
    #30 Not_hard_to_find, Nov 17, 2006
  11. Daisy

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    It's my own name for the no-negotiation, all-they-understand-is-force mentality.
     
    #31 Daisy, Nov 17, 2006
  12. tragic_pizza

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    Well, I consider the source most times, Daisy.

    "Unanswered and unaddressed" generally translates to "you didn't give me the answer you were supposed to give, thus my witty retort is rendered null."
     
    #32 tragic_pizza, Nov 17, 2006
  13. Baptist in Richmond

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    HUH?

    Actually, there is no proof that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11. That is a fact. I am not sure what you mean by that last statement - not familiar with it so I cannot comment on it.

    You might want to check that again.

    This is nothing more than wild speculation. There is no evidence that Iraq had WMD. If there were, it would be all over the news. As for shipping the alleged WMD, do you really believe that Saddam would go through the trouble of producing the stuff, then, when faced with being completely overrun, sent the stuff to another country and hid in a spider hole?

    I have heard Sean Hannity offer the theory that the WMD are in Syria, but there is no evidence to support that assertion. Besides: they could not have moved that stuff without being seen by our satellites, which were undoubtedly watching everything - every facility, every military base, every road out of the country.

    To usurp a quote from a movie: That don't make no sense. [sic]

    :thumbs:
    Good stuff!

    Hope you and yours have a great weekend,
    BiR
     
    #33 Baptist in Richmond, Nov 17, 2006
  14. Ed Edwards

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    Ed sez: //1. There has not been any convincing arguments that
    any Iraqi had something to do with 9/11.
    (However, the Iraqi connection is more believable than
    the USGovernment doing 9/11 for 'show')//

    Baptist in Richmond: //I am not sure what you mean by that last statement - not familiar with it so I cannot comment on it.//

    A Google on //9/11 "Government conspiracy"//
    today, Sat 18 Nov 2006m shows 109,000 hits.
    Many of these are conspiracy theory sites and
    others are debunking them.
    The revelation that you don't know of these conspiracies
    indicates one of two things:

    1. I'm insanely obtuse (you don't know what i'm talking about)
    2. You don't know enough to have this conversation

    Ed: // 2. When Iraq was invaded almost a month after
    they were told the US & Allies would invade Iraq,
    there were no usable WMDs found. WMDs were
    found, evidence of the existance of
    WMDs were found, evidence of the use of WMDs
    were found.//

    Baptist in Richmond: //You might want to check that again.//

    Nope, I'm not going to check that again.
    I have my memories of what I read at the time and
    now the 'facts' are skewed all over the political spectrum
    to the point of making them all dumb opinions.

    Baptist in Richmond: // There is no evidence that Iraq had WMD. If there were, it would be all over the news.//

    It was spread all over the news. Thousands of missles capable
    of deliverilng poison gas were found without warheads.
    Thousands of canisters of poison gas were found.
    The evidience that is going to hang Sudam Insane was found
    showing he used poison gas (a favorite WMD) against
    Iraqi citizens.

    Baptist in Richmond: //I have heard Sean Hannity offer the theory that the WMD are in Syria, but there is no evidence to support that assertion.//

    His theory is supported with evidence.

    Baptist in Richmond: //Besides: they could not have moved that stuff without being seen by our satellites, which were undoubtedly watching everything - every facility, every military base, every road out of the country.//

    You are correct. And you didn't hear the news?
    Maybe the news is different in Oklahoma than in in
    the heart of ol' 'Ginny?


    If you Google //IRAQ WMD "in Syria"// today you get
    268,000 hits. Not all of them deny Iraqi WMDs in Syria.
    (like all conspiracy theories, the pro-s outnumber the con-s :) )

    Here is an interesting news link:
    http://www.af.mil/news/
    (note NEWS, not history)
     
    #34 Ed Edwards, Nov 18, 2006
  15. Baptist in Richmond

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    I didn't forget about you, Ed.
    I simply have yet to find all this proof you claim is out there.

    More to follow....

    Regards,
    BiR (down in Charlotte)
     
    #35 Baptist in Richmond, Dec 6, 2006
  16. Ed Edwards

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    Well on 6 Dec 2006 I only get 235,000 hits on IRAQ WMD "in Syria".
    Back on 11 Nov 2006 I got 268,000???

    That means if the current rate continues, in 1½-years
    (prior to the next presidental election) all those sites
    will be gone-gone-gone :)
     
    #36 Ed Edwards, Dec 6, 2006
  17. Baptist in Richmond

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    All the sites I find merely state opinion, but don't really offer any facts.
     
    #37 Baptist in Richmond, Dec 6, 2006
  18. El_Guero

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    Well the opinion of most news agencies before the war was that Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Libya were major terrorist training countries.

    Doesn't anyone remember that Libya stood their programs down . . .

    ;)

    And we were supposed to ignore Iraq's training programs . . . including the training camp on how to hijack airliners . . .

    Nothing to do with September 11th? . . . I bet there are some mothers still getting money from the former Iraqi intelligence agency for blowing themselves up . . .

    Does that mean that they conducted the operation, supported the operation, or just clapped and laughed?

    I do not know.


     
    #38 El_Guero, Dec 6, 2006
  19. Baptist in Richmond

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    What was the source of those opinions? Do you remember Curveball?

    Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with the events on 9/11.

    That is conjecture, not evidence.

    Well, we do know that Saddam hated OBL, and the feeling was definitely mutual.

    Regards,
    BiR
     
    #39 Baptist in Richmond, Dec 7, 2006
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    http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=\SpecialReports\archive\200410\SPE20041004a.html

    Exclusive: Saddam Possessed WMD, Had Extensive Terror Ties

    By Scott Wheeler
    CNSNews.com Staff Writer
    October 04, 2004

    EXCERPT

    (CNSNews.com) - Iraqi intelligence documents, confiscated by U.S. forces and obtained by CNSNews.com, show numerous efforts by Saddam Hussein's regime to work with some of the world's most notorious terror organizations, including al Qaeda, to target Americans. They demonstrate that Saddam's government possessed mustard gas and anthrax, both considered weapons of mass destruction, in the summer of 2000, during the period in which United Nations weapons inspectors were not present in Iraq. And the papers show that Iraq trained dozens of terrorists inside its borders.
     
    #40 carpro, Dec 7, 2006
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