How Refreshing!

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  1. Magnetic Poles

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    Unlike our last President who couldn't recall anything he made a mistake on until his final days in office, President Obama owns up to his mistakes. THIS is change we can believe in!

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    He is not a superman or a messiah as his detractors have claimed. He is a man with human frailties. But I believe his heart is in the right place.
     
  2. chuck2336

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    Just yesterday he was asked if he stood by the nomination and his word was "ABSOLUTLY" The only thing he learned new today over yesterday was that Daschle removed his name from consideration. Obama didn’t remove it, the administration didn’t remove it, Daschle did. An admission of mistakes today instead of yesterday is hollow.

    The last president unlike the current one did not appoint folks that were tax cheats.

    This one has appointed three.
     
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    No, the last one gave no bid contracts to his and Darth Cheney's buddies at Haliburton. :laugh:
     
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    What a difference a day makes...

    You could be right but I doubt it. Because two quit today I think there was a very late meeting and what you saw today to include Obama taking ownership is the outcome of that meeting.

    I don't recall tax cheats but Bush did have trouble getting some of his appointees confirmed. Not too many people in public life that long is without a stain of some sort.
     
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    It is refreshing to have a president who can't admit mistakes until he is caught redhanded and the nominee shows more character than the president does? That's not refreshing. It's embarrassing.

    Just yesterday, Obama said he would stand behind him. If Daschle hadn't resigned, Obama would still be standing behind him.

    That's not refreshing by any meaningful definition.
     
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    I don't. Not when he believes in leaving babies to die on dirty laundry piles. I believe he has a black heart.
     
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    The interview with fox he refused to take ownership for the outcome of the meeting even when he was pressed to admit it. He placed it all on Daschel.
     
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    Are you finally admitting he doesn't walk on water or you unwilling to go that far out of fear of retribution?
     
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    I understand your point about abortion, I also understand that you are a moderator and can pretty do much what you want, but why does it seem to always come back to abortion when someone is talking about Obama?

    As you have said to others in other threads, this is off topic, if you would like to talk about abortion, please start another thread.

    I don't support Obama but I am already tired of every thread about him turning to abortion. :BangHead:
     
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    I agree, it's is good to see Obama own up to a mistake. He should have looked into it better, and quicker, but as it stands I am glad to see he can admit it when he was wrong. Very unlike our last president.
     
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    I am glad to see the opinion of the people means something to him.
     
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    I think Barrack passed to buck off to Tom! Here's some extracts from the Chris Wallace interview today:

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    WALLACE: Mr. President, thanks for talking with us.
    OBAMA: Thank you so much for being here.
    WALLACE: Did you or anyone else in your administration tell Tom Daschle he had to step down as your nominee?
    OBAMA: Well, you know, I'm not going to go into the details of it, but as has been reported, Tom made the decision that he was going to be too much of a distraction to carry out what he's so passionate about, which is health-care reform.
    What I did tell him was that I take responsibility for this mistake. I mean, I think that Tom took responsibility for the mistake on his taxes. I think it was an honest mistake, and I made the assessment. I made the judgment that he was the best person to achieve health-care reform and bring people together.
    But what became clear to me is that we can't send a message to the American people that we've got two sets of rules: one for prominent people and one for ordinary people. And, you know, so I consider this a mistake on my part and one that I intend to fix and correct and make sure that we're not screwing up again.
    WALLACE: Well, the reason I ask is because yesterday in this office, you were asked whether you supported him, and you said absolutely.
    OBAMA: Yes.
    WALLACE: And it -- it becomes clear from your answer that you played a role in the decision for him to...
    OBAMA: No. No, no, no, no, no. I don't want to -- I don't want to mistake the issue here. Tom made the decision here. He called me and indicated this was his decision.
    WALLACE: Would you have continued to back him?
    OBAMA: Well, I don't want to get into hypotheticals, Chris. Here's what I'll say. I think Tom is an outstanding person. I think this was an unintentional mistake on his part but a substantial one, and there's no excuse for the mistake. He took responsibility for it.
    Ultimately, I have to take responsibility for a process that resulted in us not having a HHS secretary at a time when people need relief from their health-care costs.
    And so, you know, this is a mistake, probably not the first one I'm going to be making in this -- in this office. But what I'm absolutely committed to doing is fixing it, getting a highly-qualified HHS secretary, and then making sure that we start providing some health-care relief to families who so desperately need it."


    Barrack said it was Tom's "decision" and Tom's "mistake" and Tom's "honest mistake". Yet he said there was "no excuse for the mistake" and we can't have "two sets of rules". Yet he would have still absolutely supported Tom and had no role in Tom's decision. We can conclude then that Tom would still be the nominee had he (Tom) not withdrawn on his own accord.

    That line "... when people need relief from their health-care costs" was a classic political diversion from the issue at hand!

    No sir, I'm not impressed with this "change they can believe in"!

    I think Obama took note of the public outrage and thought "Oh, ...." we've got to change horses here and fast!
     
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    I have never made such a claim.
     
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    Amen. Otherwise, change this to Anti-Abortion Board and be done with it. There are other things to discuss.
     
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    And if he had said nothing, you'd say he supports tax evaders. He can't win with some of you. I am GLAD we finally have a President who isn't afraid to "change horses" if the original one is a mistake. Unlike one former President we won't name. :laugh:
     
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    He was supporting a tax evader. He nominated him for a high office in our government. He was happy with the choice and stood by it even when faced with the evidence. The point is he would not have "changed horses" had it not been for public outrage. He didn't react based on his values but rather on his political sense that Tom was in deep trouble and, thereby, himself. When presented with the evidence, he could have suspended the nomination pending investigation as to whether or not it met his values. But it wasn't a problem big enough to overshadow his goals. He therefore gets an "F" for values on this one. He probably won't "win" with me because I don't expect him to act any differently. Of course, all things are possible!
     
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    I wonder when he will admit he is wrong on putting lobbyists in his admin when he said he wouldn't.
     
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    I still think he has some work to do......
     
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    They did look into it before offering him the post.

    They knew about his failure to pay taxes.

    THEY JUST DIDN'T CARE.

    They already pushed through one other big tax cheat.

    They thought they could do it again.

    After all Obama cheated on his taxes too and had to go back and amend his returns when he decided to run for President.

    He figured that the sheeple didn't care about his tax cheating - so why should they care about the tax cheating of his administration wanna-be?
     
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    You are entitled to have your opinion, but the fact is - Obama is synonymous with abortion as per his record. And you are wrong about moderators being able to do pretty much what we want. With Obama, the topic will always come back to abortion when comments are made about how his "heart is in the right place" when his record proves it isn't. Get used to the abortion comments. Until Obama changes his position on abortion and the funding of it, the comments will be there for the next 4 years. His willful murder of babies, both born and unborn, overshadows anything else this man does or will do in the next 4 years. So if you are tired of hearing about it now, pray that his heart will be changed to really being in the right place, so you won't have to hear about it for the next 4 years and that lives of millions of babies will be spared.
     
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