If you haven't already get Peroutka Campaign Volume 1 DVD and watch 'One Million Lawyers' where he talks about the presuppositions of American govt. A must watch and some great thoughts. From some of the things he said I have come up with some thoughts about convincing Christians to consider a 3rd party vote. We can each argue evidence. We can each find & provide evidence that supports our viewpoint. Yet few minds are changed in the arguments of evidence. Why is this? It is a rather simple matter really... It is because in many cases we fail to debate the presuppositions. 'Evidence is wholly insignificant when compared to presuppositions.' (Peroutka quote) The presupposition is the thing we take as 'given' before we even start the argument. It is what we already believe when we come to the table to have the debate. It is what I presuppose to be true BEFORE I listen to the evidence of another. It is what I ALREADY hold as true concerning my faith, my country, my party or a political figure, personality or current event etc. As such in my discussions with others I have formulated the following argument to challenge the presupposition of many Christians that: President Bush is a man of my faith... and Voting for President Bush supports the Kingdom of God. I have tried to do this in a way that is fully respectful of the President and does not judge the person (Matt 7:1-5).. but only asks if the words and actions he has taken are good fruit (Matt 7:13-20) The argument does not force anyone to take my version of the truth since all questions are true/false and can be answered however the test taker chooses. It also leaves the final decision to the reader (The 50th step is yours alone) which hopefully gives the Holy Spirit a little room to do some convincing where I am sure to fail. Here is the link... http://www.supercal.com/amittai/49steps.asp?s=bbb I have had some conversions via this doc and will be interested to here any thoughts or feedback. Thanks.