This is hilarious, I posted something that I knew would cause someone to attack their own position from another website, it worked, and instead of conceding to the fact that they were willing to win a debate at all costs, even at the expense of debating views from their own sources, I get accused of plagiarism as if it's an unpardonable sin. I did the exact same thing to Iconoclast that I did to "Preacher"4 Truth ("P4T"), which was post views on Calvinism that were copied directly from another Calvinist website, and he attacked the views and wasn't even consistent in attacking them because I stated them twice in different ways, one in a paragraph and one in bulleted order. He denied the first one outright, but then admitted to 3 of 4 of the last one, and yet they were both exactly the same. What I demonstrated in this was the Calvinists on here (and it isn't all of them) were so willing to win a debate at all costs no matter what my posts said, that they attacked their own views unknowingly just to win a debate. Members like P4T made statements like "you've been OWNED". Really? What kind of Christians think they own someone because they slandered them in a conversation? Then to boot, these Calvinists have called the IFB a cult, KJVOers a cult, criticized our spirituality, one of you even called me a terrorist because I'm Jewish, and has consistently posted anti -Semitic trash on the history thread directed at me, and then because we IFB have a different view on God, I'm blaspheming Him? And it's funny that you all are trying to pull the divide and conquer with the Non Cals when just in one thread (Calvinisms Amillenialism and Infant Baptism) you were all calling Heir of Salvation ("HOS") a troll, and claiming that he and his wife were the same account, trolling pages. Then posted a link that compared HOS and I to some Dumb and Dumber movie with some godless jerk named Jim Carrey, seconded by an additional picture of two retarded people, and WE ARE THE ONES ACTING FOOLISH??? When PT4 was questioned about posting liquor references on here, instead of denouncing, he defended the Pharisees calling Jesus a winebibber,simply to mock me. On post 181, (while blaspheming Christ) he and KYRedneck had already agreed to attempt to "tag team" me and then wrote messages to several others on here to join in. That's just childish and wicked. I've been on some Baptist forums, and this is THE WORST. The atmosphere here is no better than what I have seen on atheist websites. I've seen some harsh people in the IFB, but what folks accuse them of in being vicious or "legalistic" is NOTHING compared to what I've seen on here. I am so glad that Christ is my Lord and Saviour because if I were not a Christian and this is what I had to view as an example of Christianity, I would never become a Christian. God forgive me for stooping to their level today.