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I -35 Bridge collapse/coincidence?

Discussion in '2007 Archive' started by betterthanideserve, Aug 24, 2007.

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  1. betterthanideserve

    betterthanideserve New Member

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    Huh?


    You mean that response was Eds? I thought that was info linked from a news sight pardon me,I didn't know that he was responding with his own conclusions.....
    One liners?Really? please see Eds last post in regard to this subject then tell me I'm giving any one-liners....
     
  2. Bro. Curtis

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    wrong again, dude.

    You are addressing the one-liners, and leaving the thoughtful responses alone.

    Prove that you are worth talking to, and address Ed's post.
     
  3. rbell

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    There's a few folks on the BB that believe quite a few conspiracies are afoot.

    However, most of them are quite gracious in their posts.

    They don't question another's view as being unbiblical.

    They don't accuse others of causing confusion.

    They don't quote Ephesians 5:11--in a way to insinuate collusion with the works of darkness.


    Forgive my bluntness: some of your posts are a bit out there for my tastes...but even if they aren't, the spirit in which you deliver some of your "material" would send me running the other way, anyway.

    Since we're quoting KJV verses to each other:

    A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.
     
  4. Magnetic Poles

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    Do you find it strange that the state of Mississippi lies along the banks of the river named Mississippi? :laugh:
     
  5. EdSutton

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    Well, I'll plead guilty to the use of "one-liners" if and when they are appropriate, IMO. :D

    Has something to do with my own "warped sense of humor" as my late mother used to say about me.

    And, yes, I did give two 'links' in the body of the posts, I composed. (Did you bother to read either, just outta' curiosity?) The first had to do with the 'pigeons'. The second, actually had nothing to do with the I-35W bridge, but was some information about the I-75 Brent Spence Bridge across the Ohio River in Covington, KY. And yes, it is mostly in Covington, KY and not in Cincinnati, OH, for the Ohio River lies in KY up to the low water mark on the north shore of the river, just for information.

    However, the contusions , 'er I mean conclusions, about the I-35 bridge are mostly my own, and if you actually read my posts, you would see that. I never claimed to be an engineer, but, as I said previously, do happen to understand a small bit about structural integrity. And as a long time, 'road fan" I also am fairly familiar with roads, as laymen go, as well. (Not bragging, but "Just the facts, Maam!" as Jack Webb/Joe Friday used to say.)

    And I posted and am now posting some of this to refute a couple of mis-statements, or at least misleading statements, about this, that were seen first, in the OP (and later blindly repeated or others given in some of these follow-up posts), as though this were in the path of a proposed "new" road, when in fact, no such new road was even being talked about along this corridor. An 'upgrade' or a widening, by adding a lane or two, or even a new bridge to replace an outmoded, functionally obsolescent, structurally deficient bridge along an existing ROW and roadbed is a far cry from an all "new terrain road" such as parts of the planned future I-69 Extension from Indianapolis to Mexico, including the now underway "Great River Bridge" at Benoit, MS, and the future I-69 Bridge (well in the works) over the Ohio River, near Evansville, IN and Henderson, KY.

    Second, there was no video that was where "they just happened to catch a video, just a simple coincidence", at all, either. The video (actually a series of 'stills' security shots), of one of the gates to the lower locks of the St. Anthony Falls Dam, was taken by one of several security cameras put in place by the U.S. Coast Guard, for the purposes of security after 9/11. All the locks and dams on all navigable waterways in the USA, as do the waterways themselves, with a very few exceptions of some privately owned waters, come under the purview and oversight of the U. S. Army Corps of Engineers and the U. S. Coast Guard, just in case you did not know that, as well.

    Third, nor is this accurate. "...(it did come down very quick) 6 seconds...fell flat." In fact, just what we see of the bridge falling [somehow we cannot see the 'near' end of the bridge, for some reason in the lock security pictures (ya' think that might be due to miscalculation by some of these "globalists" as they set up the cameras?? :rolleyes: )], or just might it be "co-incidnetally" because the cameras were set on the gates and/or the lock facilities, and one of them just happened to cover a little over half of the I-35W Bridge and some what less of the 10th Avenue bridge that lay just 'south' of the I-35W bridge in the background? And just the parts that are seen falling took about 16 seconds for the multiple spans to go down, not 6 seconds. The acceleration speed of a free-falling object increases by a factor of 32 feet per second, for each second traversing. Just exactly how many seconds do you think it takes for something accelerating at the speed of falling objects to cover a distance of some 64 feet, the mean distance between "the top of the bottom" of the center arch and the water surface? I'll help you out; it's about 2 1/2 seconds. In fact the top of the bridge at 115', would theoretically hit the water in almost exactly three seconds flat.

    Nor did it fall down flat, exactly either. There was apparently a shifting out of plane on the end where the collapse apparently started, which also "conveniently" (according to some :rolleyes: again), happens to just be outside the view range of the security camera, on the 'South' or 'West' part of the bridge.

    And why would not it have fallen apparently fairly "flat", as opposed to some massive twisting, or torquing? The sections were all tied together in a truss and cross-truss system. Have you ever heard of the law of gravity or the laws of motion? The bridge was almost twice as wide (113.5') as it was above the water at the center of the arch (64'). It was almost exactly as wide (113.5') at the deck, as the top of the deck was above water (115')

    I have no clue as to the weight of the bridge without looking it up, but would know that it was many tons. And it would take many tons of angular force applied to have it 'turn' or 'rotate' significantly, at any scenario, in less than three seconds. The rocket thrust of all the launches of our four remaining space shuttle simultaneously attached the bridge and fired simultaneously with a 'collapse', could not serve to rotate that entire bridge, from a standing start, at the start of the collapse, given its weight even a quarter of a turn (90*) in less than three seconds, to overcome gravity, here. That may be "rocket science", unlike some of the other things I have posted, but I am not a rocket scientist, so will say that this is merely my opinion.

    That is why I posted, and am now posting again. If one wants to be a "coincidentalist" (Cute!) or "conspiratorist", there is little or nothing more I can say. And all the evidence that investigators can and will gather will be "glossed over" and dismissed, by those who hold to such. I know that, but think I can show a bit of info for those who are not already so predisposed as to find a conspiracy under and behind every rock.

    Thanks, Bro. Curtis for your confidence and 'support'. I appreciate it. :)

    Ed
     
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    I dunno'.
    Do you (or anyone else) find it strange that West Virginia and Kentucky effectively 'own' all of the Ohio River, while the state of Ohio effectively owns none of it, even while it effectively divides these (KY & WV from OH) states along their boundaries? :laugh:

    Ed
     
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    Now, THAT just has to be some kind of conspiracy! :smilewinkgrin:
     
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