I am teeling you liberal will drive this country to a civil war.

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  1. Revmitchell

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    On Friday, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo (D), who has been widely discussed as a possible 2016 presidential candidate, told Susan Arbetter of The Capitol Pressroom that “extreme conservatives” should leave the state. He said that “extreme conservatives who are right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay” have “no place in the state of New York.”


    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/17/Cuomo-conservatives-leave
     
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    I pray it doesn't come to that, but if you look at the Declaration of Independence, many of the grievances listed in the DoI are exactly what the government is doing now.

    It seems like the feds are just bound and determined to poke the bear with a stick. What happens when the bear decides he's had enough?
     
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    Well, why don't he drag his backside upstate and try and move me.
     
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    I doubt it.
     
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    We had a number of states that have had 9 counties or more that tried to succeed from the state.

    We have in Colorado 17 sheriffs who refuse to enforce the new gun laws passed. In the same state two Democrats have been recalled and a third one is on the way to being recalled because of the new gun laws passed.

    Half the states will not implement a federal exchange for obamacare.

    States like Colorado, NY and I believe it was one of the Dakotas are loosing businesses like gun and ammo factories to states like Texas because of gun laws or excessive taxes.

    Obama's numbers are dropping because he will not back off on this government run health care. The country does not want it. And its effects are only going to get worse.

    Obama has tried to illegally make recess appointments when the Senate was not in recess just to by pass congress.

    Obama has gone haywire with the executive orders in order to by pass congress.

    He is also using agencies like the EPA to set regs in order to by pass congress.

    Add to that the far left extreme is mad because Obama cannot go far enough for them and the average American is getting tired because because he is moving the country in an unAemrican direction.

    The NSA spying is another issue


    The Dems are pushing to hard to fast and it will bite them in the backside.


    The repubs could easily win elections if we could get rid of guys like Boehner and McConnel and their ilk.
     
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    While I pray there is no civil war, I would have no problem with a state succeeding.

    I don't know if you're aware of this or not, but it goes far beyond Colorado.

    http://cspoa.org/sheriffs-gun-rights/

    There are currently 479 sheriffs nationwide who are refusing to enforce these laws.

    Half the states will not implement a federal exchange for obamacare.

    Beretta left Maryland last spring for that very reason.

    Yep. It's called "legislation by regulation".
     
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    NT SAFE Act was enacted under the cloak of darkness ostensibly in response to the Newtown shooting. It made firearms with one "assault weapon" feature illegal to purchase and must be registered to retain.

    You can't buy ammo by mail order or Internet. You have to sell or destroy any magazine that holds more than 10 rounds. You cannot load more than seven rounds in any magazine. That provision was struck down last week but it illustrates the absurdity mixed throughout the law.

    I bolded the methane producing part of the argument. The law stops nothing. It criminalizes the law abiding gun holder while doing nothing to the criminal until after they have committed a crime.

    Case in point: I own two Ruger 10/22 rifles. They are simply a semi-automatic loading, magazine fed rimfire rifle. One is straight out of the box, unmodified since it left the factory with the exception of a fixed 4x scope. As long as I don't load more than 7 rounds in the magazine it is perfectly fine for me to own and use. The second 10/22 has an aftermarket, laminated, thumbhole stock and a 3-9x 40mm scope. The receiver, trigger group, and magazine - all the parts that make it fire are exactly like the other rifle. The only difference is the stock. The second rifle is illegal for me to own in the state without registering it. Why? Because it looks more lethal than the other one.
     
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    Did he actually say that? Hard to imagine because he has gotta know that most of Upstate NY is in fact Conservative. Maybe its Cuomo that needs to move to Massachusetts.
     
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    He wants to move to DC. That way the whole country can share the experience.
     
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    Gun laws are not about stopping criminals from doing bad things with guns. It is ab out liberals not wanting law abiding citizens to own any.
     
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    I tried to find any reports about how many gang-bangers and crack dealers turned in their illegally owned weapons. Nobody seems to have any information. I just figured everyone, fearing the wrath of Coumo, would scamper down to their local police station and turn in their MAC-10s, AKs and high cap magazines.
     
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    If liberals keep it up they will see some push back they do not want.
     
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    Stupid is as stupid does. Here's another example. Folks near Ithaca NY were complaining about the deer population. They were thick as fleas and folks were getting upset. Understand there's a ton of university types down there and they were upset the deer were over-running their green spaces. Well educated libs don't have lawns or yards. They have green spaces. One too many whitetail got bounced off the hood of another Prius and the folk demanded the state do something.

    NYS Department of Environmental Conservation responded quickly.

    From now until the end of the month, properly licensed individuals can harvest up to two antlerless deer per day. A perfect solution to an overrun area. Well, a perfect solution to us folks hugging to our guns and Bibles. Apparently the hybrid hemp sandal wearers were hoping for a peaceful coexistence with the deer. They didn't want them dead. They just didn't want God's creatures to encroach on their well-intended persons or property. I guess they expected the DEC to arm folk with cooking pots and wooden spoons so the deer could be clanged away into the forest to frolic with Thumper and all the other forest creatures.
     
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    Living in a state where Obama got 36% of the vote in 2012 and 38% in 2008, sometimes it is hard to understand how different we are than the rest of the nation. The only time a Democrat carries our state is when the Democrats nominate a southern politician, such as Carter or Clinton.

    With only eight electoral votes, we do not have much say. I thought at one point there was no way Romney was going to lose. I thought states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and New Jersey would put him over the top. Most in this state thought Romney too liberal, but what other choice was there? In the end, everyone of these states fell to Obama.

    One wonders how Nixon ever carried states like New York and California, and Reagan carried very liberal states like Maryland and Massachusetts. I suppose over the years, the voting patterns have changed quite a bit.

    No one knows what the future holds. After the 2012 results, I do not see much hope for the GOP nominee. Of course, it is possible the Democrats could pull a real boner like nominating Biden. If the Republicans nominate another moderate-liberal candidate like McCain or Romney, the result will be the same regardless of the Democrat nominee.

    I too pray there is never a civil war. For those who were in the military or combat, I am sure you wish the same thing. Things could really get nasty way beyond the experience of the average American.
     
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    And thus endeth his presidential wannabe-ness.
     
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    Civil war? I hope not. I think people are going to wake up soon enough and realize that too many people elected to represent the voice of the American people are not accurately representing the majority.

    Civil war shouldn't be a consideration. It should be a war against corruption and unchecked power.
     
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    I hope it doesn't get to a civil war.

    If it does it will be the democrats and republicans going after each other while the globalists that control both parties set back and laugh their heads off at all of us for being so stupid.
     
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    I already have the political cartoon drawn in my mind. Beck and Rush in a cage fight with Obama and Bush as their handlers and...oh nevermind, I really gotta get the dishes done before I get myself in trouble. :saint:
     
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    Yeah that's about the size of it. Our political system in this country is just like a WWF tag team match it's the republican and democratic parties vs the American people and our republic.

    The democrats get in the ring and pound on the people and our republic till we're all battered and bruised then they tag out and the republican party jumps into the ring to to batter and bruise us some more then they tag out and the democrats jump back into the ring and pound on us some more. Keep repeating this until we live under a global totalitarian rule

    The people and our republic are losing the match. But still we root for the democrats and republicans that are beating us into the ground.

    It's a form of normalized insanity. Because we have become conditioned to believe that if we can just get "our guys" into office all will be better but it never happens that way we just get disappointed and the despotism gets worse.

    Look at it another way. The "national election process" is a horse race where all the horses are owned by one small group. The globalists.

    What is a globalist? A globalist is an unelected person that belongs to a small group of elite internationalists that have no loyalty to any one nation. Their only interest is to gain as much power and control over the mass of people on this planet as possible and to extract as much wealth from the mass of people as possible without being noticed.

    Those that see through the false left vs right paradigm are called crazy conspiracy theorists and radicals "on the fringes of society" by the mass media that the globalists also control and the loyal democrats and republicans fall for it and keep right on rooting for the bought and paid for politicians of their choice that are working together to destroy our republic and impoverish us so the United States can be merged into a one world government.

    It's time to wake up to this phoney political divide liberals need to understand the republican party is controlled by the same small group of global elites that control the democratic party and the republicans need to understand that liberals are every bit the dupes they themselves are.

    When we all come to this realization we can have change for the better. But as long as we let this small group of global elites play us against each other we're just going to keep sinking deeper into the pit prepared for us until we no longer have a chance to regain any form of independence or self governance.

    We need to all stop being dupes and blaming the "other side" for all our troubles and hold the real culprits responsible. The globalists that control both parties and the mass media.
     
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    Look at states wanting to secede
     

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