I hope Sara Evans reconsiders

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  1. ASLANSPAL

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    I think Ms. Evans is talented a good singer ..I disagree with her politics and being used as a poster child for the Republican party and enabling these two peas in a pod.

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    but God is a God of reconciliation and if both parties agree to change and repent ..then perhaps their marriage can be salvage and a lot of wisdom gleaned but what is offensive after all these years of being the darling of
    Republican circles the truth comes and it is not pretty.

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    Failed Republican congressional candidate and GOP fund-raiser Craig Schelske is also accused of abusing his wife and making his young children watch pornography. According to Evans’ complaint, there are more than a hundred pictures stored on the family computer of Schelske screwing myriad women as well as parading around his house naked and “aroused.” According to his CraigsList ads, Schelske is particularly interested in having anal sex with strangers and threesomes.
    More filth after the jump.
    A one-time “Republican BABE of the Week!” and national-anthem singer at various GOP conventions, Evans is apparently very popular with red-state voters. That she appeared to have a happy family was exploited by the party’s family values wing.



    And the way you have a happy marriage in the Christian world is to submit to yer husband:
    “It’s most important to keep marriage and family together. I am a child of divorce, and it’s devastating. I have a 12-year marriage. And the way I see it, the way to an amazing marriage is having sex … lots of sex. Sex keeps the marriage young. And a woman should maintain herself for her husband and stay attractive. I like to put the kids to bed, have a glass of wine on the patio or by the fireplace, and I ask Craig, ‘What do you need of me?’”​
    That didn’t work out so well.
    What you’re probably thinking right now is, “How was Tom DeLay involved?”
    DeLay was campaigning for Evans!

    It would be nice if she would reconsider going back to the dance but I understand totally her children need her and her protection.

    God help you Sara and hope you become Independent and far ...far ...away from Republican politics of deception and sex....I think a lot of her zany stuff she said was because of fear and husbands abuse.imho
     
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    AP - I'm praying for you. I think you need some kind of counseling.
     
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    I'm sorry, AP. I didn't mean that to sound harsh or self-righteous. I'm sure you understand how people can misconstrue your words or intentions. I mean, people do it to you all the time, right?

    I apologize for suggesting you get help. But I'll still pray for you, whether you want it or not.
     
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    Another honest effort to get this topic moving with solutions

    Lets try this again...open the topic up for Sara's concern and how politics , deception, and abuse can teach you a hard lesson.

    they really liked her on dancing with the stars and it would be great if she could go back but I understand if she cannot.


    What's the most shocking part of the allegations?All equally shocking59%The child confrontation25%The pornography10%That he's a politician6%Total Votes: 77,117If she stayed, would Sara have won 'Dancing'?No way55%Maybe38%Definitely7%Total Votes: 81,662

    http://news.aol.com/entertainment/tv/articles/_a/evans-quits-dancing-files-for-divorce/20061013064609990001


     
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    Thanks for the info, ASLANSPAL. I have several of Sara Evans' CDs and I have liked her music. I was wondering what was going on and now I know. It appears that she definitely has Biblical grounds for divorce.
     
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    I am surprised the moderators allowed the OP to keep the link to a pornographic site. I am also surprised the OP would contain such a link.
     
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    To be fair a statement from the husband

    http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061013/dcf051.html?.v=34


    Statement of Craig Schelske, Husband of Sara Evans
    Friday October 13, 6:11 pm ET

    NASHVILLE, Tenn., Oct. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- The following is a statement of Craig Schelske, husband of Sara Evans:
    Sara and our three children are the most important people in my life. I have made the decision to forgive Sara for the unfortunate campaign that she and her publicity advisors are currently waging.
    I adamantly deny the allegations that are being made.
    As distressing as it is to have to communicate about this matter publicly, Sara has unfortunately become a dramatically different person over the last year and it is something we have struggled to deal with. Sadly, it appears we have failed.
    The best I can do at this difficult time is ask that people of faith would pray for her and for my family.
    My greatest concern is for my children and the irreparable harm they are at risk of facing. As such, I will have no further comment on this matter outside of a courtroom.



    My comment:To be fair I will let this sit...but something bothers me about
    it .

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    seeking the topic is pertinent for these reasons ..we have been discussing submission in baptist topic...alot of sex is going on in the news that involves politics....sara imho was used by republican leaders...her husband ran for congress...he runs fundraising for republicans...he is on the board of a religious foundation. If you have a problem with a link report it to the mods ..as this story progresses their are plenty of links if you google it.
    plus we have fans that think she is talented and a good singer who are concerned.

    sincerely
    Aslanspal

    http://www.schelskeforcongress.com/bio.htm

    http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061013/ENTERTAINMENT06/61013002
     
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    AP I have a question

    You seem to draw a link between this behaviour and and the GOP. Do you think that if we voted in all (name party of choice) that there would not be anymore of this type of thing.

    What I am saying is I think there are Mark Foleys, Bill Clintons, Craig Schelskis and Ted Kennadies across the political spectrum. It is not just limited to GOP or DNC they are Independints, Libratarians, Constitutional party, Green, etc.

    If you put enough people from one party in office you will find a rotten one or two.


    OR are you saying the GOP makes people this way.
     
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    I did not see any link to porn.
     
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    Saw no porn, but lots of inappropriate language in the links section of the Wonkette blog link. Beware if easily offended.
     
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    The thing is, all these other groups are not running as the "party of the religious right". These other groups don't have folks questioning someone's salvation because of a vote for someone from "the other side". And these other groups aren't constantly saying one thing and then either doing nothing or doing the very opposite of what they said.

    Foley was part of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children for goodness sake! Talk about doing the opposite of your word.

    I agree, sin knows no boundries, but if the Republican party wants to play the part of being a proponent of faith and family, they need to clean up thier own act and in a hurry! Why should I give my vote to someone who claims to support my ideals but truely only care that he gets my vote so he/she can do just as they please when they get the job?

    The problem with the Republican party is that they have made hypocrites of themselves by allowing matters like Foley and the OP to go on without reproach.

    If you are going to put yourself up as the model by which the world should live, shouldn't you live your own ideals?
     
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    And democrats haven't? :rolleyes:
     
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    But the Democrats haven't put themselves up as the purveyors of faith and family. What makes a hypocrit is someone who pretends to believe one way and yet realty shows they believe the opposite.
     
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    So, it's okay for Democrats to be anti faith and family, because they never claim to be anything but anti faith and family? Is that what you are trying to say?
     
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    Ya' know, I wonder what Jeremiah or Isaiah would say? Peter or Paul? Jesus?

    'Repent' would be a good word to start with.

    IMHO. I just pray that God begins judging our leaders with the painful deaths that they deserve - so that people in America will turn back before God judges the rest of us . . . IMHO.

    :jesus: is the only Way . . .
     
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    I'm not sure if that was intended to be funny or not. Either way, I disagree.

    There are good and honest people in both major parties. I don't think it is fair to hold entire parties responsible for the behavior of one member. Just like I don't think it is right to label a church or denomination as bad because one of it's members is bad.

    The reason for my question to the person above my last post, was the implication that Republicans are bad because they claim to be for faith and family, and a member of the Republican party engaged in behavior that does not fit the claim. That is what I believe they meant by excusing Democrats bad behavior as not hypocritical, because they never claimed to be for faith and family.
     
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    Never said I excused anyone for their bad behavior.

    But....(let me see if I can explain this simply):

    In the last election those Christians who dared vote for someone on the Democratic party were told how liberal that must make us and even on occasion had our salvation questioned. The Democratic party was/is BAD and the Republican were GOOD. Why? Because the Democrats made no secret of their support of abortion and gay rights and the Republicans pretended to go along with the "religious right" and told us what we wanted to hear while planning all along to do nothing and then pretend they couldn't.

    Then these good Republican yell and holler when a democrat does something wrong using the incidence as proof of what they were telling us all along. Democrats are BAD. And the "religious right" goes right along with them.

    But when a Republican does something wrong, we are not to paint the entire party by what one individual does. The whole party is GOOD and there's no denying it!

    I'm sorry if you folks can't see through these tactics. Neither party is all good or all bad. (I think most of us agree on that) But it irritates me especially for Republican supporters to put themselves on a pedestal of goodness when nothing could be further from the truth.

    This is evidenced not only by the OP but also by Foley, Cheny (who couldn't seem to teach his own child that homosexuality is wrong and I won't even mention Haliburton), and the newest bit....Rep Weldon of Pa who is being investigated for improperly securing contracts for his daughter.

    IF I'm not mistaken a party is made up of individual members. If the Republicans want to put themselves up as the party for "faith and values", then they need to be sure the membership agrees. :rolleyes:
     
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    You are just making the same error still.

    Foley is a hypocrite. That does not make the Republican party hypocrites.
    Kennedy is a fat, alcoholic who drove his mistress into a river and left her to drown. That does not make all Democrats fat alcoholics that drive their mistresses into rivers and leave them to drown.

    Democrats, in general, do not support the war in Iraq. A few Democrats do support the war in Iraq, does that make them hypocrites? No, it makes them individuals who are responsible for their own thoughts and actions. They may agree with the rest of the party 90% of the time, but, the 10% of the time they do not agree does not make they hypocrites.
     
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    Actual filing and restraining order

    http://www.accesshollywood.com/pdf/sara_evans.pdf



    Personally this Republican mover and shaker is not showing leadership , I am glad he was not elected.

    He is showing leadership in the blame game


    I see through all the methods trying to drag democrats into blame ..you can do that perhaps with the past.

    but the naked reality is this

    Republicans are in power in all three branches. Now!

    I got phone calls during both elections extoling their so called family values and they used fearmongering ..in saying the democrats will steal your bibles ...worst was a lady saying "Bush is Gods man..and if you don't vote for him you are not a Christian"
    actually happened.
     
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    Well, isn't that Special.
     
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