I Kid You Not...

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  1. HAMel

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    I couldn't believe this when I read it.

    Pro-life groups call for Pepsi boycott over aborted fetal cell lines

    LARGO, Florida, May 26, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Scores of prolife groups are calling for a public boycott of food giant, PepsiCo, due to its partnership with Senomyx, a biotech company that uses aborted fetal cells in the research and development of artificial flavor enhancers.

    LifeSiteNews previously reported on Senomyx’s partnership with major food corporations, most notably PepsiCo, Kraft Foods, and Nestlé.

    Pro-life watchdog group, Children of God for Life (CGL), is now joined by major pro-life organizations calling upon the public to target PepsiCo in a boycott.

    Pepsi is funding the research and development, and paying royalties to Senomyx, which uses HEK-293 (human embryonic kidney cells) to produce flavor enhancers for Pepsi beverages.

    “Using isolated human taste receptors we created proprietary taste receptor-based assay systems that provide a biochemical or electronic readout when a flavor ingredient interacts with the receptor,” says the Senomyx website.

    “What they do not tell the public is that they are using HEK 293 – human embryonic kidney cells taken from an electively aborted baby to produce those receptors,” stated Debi Vinnedge, President for CGL, the watch dog group that has been monitoring the use of aborted fetal material in medical products and cosmetics for years.

    The aborted fetal cells are not in the product itself. However, “there are many options PepsiCo could be using instead of aborted fetal cells,” noted Vinnedge.

    The revelation about Senomyx’s research techniques motivated Campbell Soup to sever all relations with Senomyx.

    However, PepsiCo continues their business relationship despite the abortion connection. They drew pubic ire earlier this year when they responded, saying, “our collaboration with Senomyx is strictly limited to creating lower-calorie, great-tasting beverages for consumers.”

    When pressed further, PepsiCo sent out a form letter response saying they had been accused of conducting aborted fetal tissue research.

    Bradley Mattes, executive director of Life Issues Institute, said, “While aborted fetal cells aren’t actually in the product itself, the close relationship is enough to repulse most consumers. To our knowledge, this is the first time a food product has been publicly associated with abortion.”

    The pro-life groups noted that additional companies collaborating with Senomyx will be targeted for boycott next.

    The pro-life organizations are asking the public to boycott all Pepsi drink products and encourage consumers to contact Pepsi management requesting that they sever all ties with Senomyx.
    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pr...r-pepsi-boycott-over-aborted-fetal-cell-lines
     
  2. John Toppass

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    What was it that you could not believe?

    The call for a boycott or the type of relationship that Pepsico has with Senomyx?

    I was not aware of this and as soon as I can satisfactorily check that these are true facts, I am for the boycott.
     
  3. Ruiz

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    I am not for boycotting companies. In my opinion, we would be better off recommending solid and moral companies than trying to find a way to boycott a certain company. I am 100% for the pro-life cause, but am against boycotts and in favor of recommending good companies.

    For instance, I love Chick-fil-A. I don't boycott other restaurants and may eat at their local establishment, but I generally love Chick-fil-A and favor them over others fast food type places. I would rather someone say that this company is a great moral company and we should support them but I do not think we should say that company X is horrible and we should boycott them.

    For the record, I generally do not drink soda (I probably have had 4 cans of soda in the last 4 years). Yet, to boycott Pepsi would mean you boycott much more than the soda line. This is a very large company.

    Give me a list of great companies to support, not bad companies to boycott.
     
  4. Mexdeaf

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    To what Ruiz said, I say "Amen".
     
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    Huh? Seriously? You think we should willfully fund abortion? "Hey, so Pepsi is openly endorsing children murder. I think we should just say "Drink Coke" instead of saying "Don't participate in Pepsi's baby murder."

    Seriously? Sorry, but that is illogical. If my buying a product promotes the murder of babies...I am going to use a different product. Baby murder is not a negotiable.
     
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    I guarantee you fund many such ventures...you just do not know about them.

    Unless you refuse to buy anything and grow your own food an make your own clothes, this happens.

    Do you give your money to purchase a product...or to support whatever cause the company does?

    You can also buy a Bible from a christian company, but the employee uses their pay (which comes from sales) to fund an abortion for their girlfriend.
     
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    It's so easy to go to extremes.. stay real people..
     
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    Ugh. Sometimes I'd just rather not know. For me, it's not about hating the company or fighting them (and I do support GOOD companies) it's about letting the Holy Spirit lead my conscience. For me, if I knowingly buy Pepsi now that I've learned the facts, I'd feel like I'm helping participate in sin.

    To him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin. . .that's my take on it. So, knowing the ugly truth puts a burden on me where before I could enjoy my Pepsi in blissful ignorance.

    Not saying it's sin for anyone else. Just my personal feeling on the matter.
     
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    I'm guessing we'd have to boycott most everything. We live in a world that has little to no moral values when it comes to scientific research and making a buck.

    Nobody's going to seek out and effectively make a dent in the industries that participate in these things.

    The answer, as always, is to change the hearts of people so that they don't do these things to start with.

    And that isn't going to happen. The world goes downhill and it only gets worse. If you believe the Bible, do you really think that boycotting the Pepsi company is going to make a difference at this point in time? If you feel that strongly, send Bibles to the companies that do their research and testing using aborted babies rather than take your couple of dollars and putting them towards another company that probably does the same thing, you just don't know it. Your individual money means nothing to them and a boycott only puts their product in the public eye. Those that support them or don't care one way or another far outweigh those that are upset enough to quit spending their money on their products. Odd are they won't even notice it missing, if anything they'll simply have an increase in sales due to your inadvertent extra advertising for them.
     
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    Now that is the deep end. I would say that much of my money does do this but it does not support abortion with my knowledge--------- that is the difference and a sane difference at that. That is like saying that if you vote for a someone who is pro baby murder then as long as you claim to be against baby murder then you have no responsibility. You would be only fooling yourself for when you look at your hands you will see the blood of many a murdered baby on them as if you performed the abortions yourself.
    I do not expect anyone to agree with this if they support candidates and parties who are pro-choice. Because they need a reason to justify their dance with Satan.
     
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    I've always believed that it is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness. Boycotts seem to me to be cursing the darkness.

    And comparing voting for a pro-choice candidate and buying a can of Pepsi is a stretch. Suppose all of the candidates are pro-choice - do I then forfeit my right to vote?

    There is a lot of "lip-service" given to being pro-life by political candidates, BTW. Many are pro-life until they are elected.
     
  12. John Toppass

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    So, are you saying this would justify continued support of the candidate?
     
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    I'm saying we could elect 100% pro-life candidates to every electable position in this country and America would still be going to hell.
     
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    That is a lot of stuff to boycott.

    http://www.pepsico.com/Company/Our-Brands/Pepsi-Cola-Brands.html

    And it appears to be a selective boycott. If those behind the boycott were serious would they not boycott all PepsiCo products? Even buying a bag of Cheetos profits Pepsi.

    Boycotts are an interesting concept. I would wonder how far to carry them. For example if a church hires a building contractor, should they research to make sure that the contractor has never done any work on an abortion clinic? Before a Christian calls a cab should they make sure that the cab company does not take women to an abortion clinic? Should a church runs ads in a newspaper that also runs ads for abortion clinics?
     
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    Doesn't the Bible deal with stuff like this in terms of eating meat sacrificed to idols?
     
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    I think I read somewhere that we are to be "in" the world but not "of" the world. Forget who said that. :laugh:

    How can anyone be "in" the world while boycotting everything that has the appearance of being un-Christian?????? We'd all starve to death.
     
  17. John Toppass

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    Wow! Some of the reasoning we can come up with so we can support that which does not deserve supporting. That is what I would call being "of" this world not "in" it.
     
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    Oh and by the way my boycott should never be your boycott or visa versa, it does no good if you don't believe in what your doing.
     

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