I see dead people.....

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  1. luvnlife33

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    Okay I knew that would get everyone's attention... Since I am a new Christian I still am learning and hopefully always will.... however I have learned that there is an earthly realm, a spiritual realm, and a heavenly realm.... now.. does this mean that some people can see spirits?? My 7 year old told my husband that he 'saw that boy again this morning' - today he was peeking at him over the sink in the basement - THERE ARE NO OTHER LITTLE CHILDREN IN THE HOUSE.... This is not the first time nor the first place he has seen this kind of stuff - HELP!!!!!! :eek:
     
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    Well, it could be an overactive imagination but it is also possible that he really is seeing a 'remnant'...a shadow from the past. I don't understand this sort of thing so I am afraid to really say very much. I do know that it is not something that we should 'dabble' with. It could give satan a foothold. I would suggest that you pray to God for a hedge of protection around your son. I wouldn't tell him that he is imagining things but I would try to discourage him from interacting with this 'person?'.
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  3. dianetavegia

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    Sounds like an invisible friend and nothing more. All my children have had invisible friends. [​IMG]

    Luke 16:26
    And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.'


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    The fact that there are no other little children in the house makes me agree with Diane. Very often the youngest child will develop an imaginary friend to play with because there is no one else around.

    I wouldn't be too harsh with him. It is not that out of the ordinary. We had an ivisible friend named "Ricky" with us for a couple of years. It never even occurred to me that my daughter was seeing a dead person. She soon outgrew him...
     
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    I agree, Diane and Sue.

    Children have great imaginations and sometimes they do this for attention, also.

    My son had a friend that lived by the gate. Don't know what gate.

    His friend told him how to steal a pig. My son told this in detail to our neighbor. No one had any pigs. We lived in the city.

    My daughter set an extra plate for her friend. We didn't encourage this behavior, nor did we discourage it. Soon, the friends were forgotten.
     
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    luvnlife33,
    I have seen unexplained things in my life. I don't claim they were dead, or alive for that fact. I have seen people in strange places and others not see them. Maybe my eyes catches things differenlly. I do know that the witch from Endor in the bible brought up Samuel from the grave and he was mad that Saul had this done. It's in the book 1Samuel 28:7. I do believe in the spirit world interacting with the human world. In Gen 6:2-4 talks about the sons of God coming and taking the daughters of men. Then they were gaints in those days and then the sons of God took the daughters of man. I'll let you draw your own thoughts on this one. And my final thought is when the battle was raging and the king saw thousands of soilders when in fact there were only a few. Anything is possible. I do know that evil can not stay where the Holy Spirit of our Father is and even the mention of His Holy Name Jesus will disperse the evil and make it depart. If in fact it is evil. Maybe its like the angel in the donkey. He's there as a guarding angel. Don't assume just because we don't understand that it is wrong or evil. I will pray for you and your family. God does keep a protective hedge around us. Pray that your son be sealed by that promise. Seven. It's the number of completion in the bible. Your son may be under the drawing of the Holy Spirit unto salvation and is being distracted by this apearance. Does he feel fear? Is he worried about what he sees? Does it disturbe him in anyway? Don't tell him what he sees, let him tell you about what he is seeing. But I would not tell him he don't see anything when he says he does. You just can't be that sure he don't see what he says he sees. I would be interested in knowing how this progresses and if or when he has another visit if you would like to share it with us.
    God be with you and your family and keep you safe in His Holy Will and Grace.
    Love
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    Thank you.. I am very concerned about my son... we talked about it yesterday... and I just let it be as if it were an imaginary friend... (because it scared me)... I asked what is his name.. my son said.. I don't know mom.... he doesn't talk to me.. I don't talk to him... he is just there. He could describe to me what he looked like. I asked if he were scared and he said yes, kinda. I didn't want to seem as if I were scared to him. He told me he just 'peeks' at him.. in the basement he saw the full child 'peeking' at him. When I picked the boys up yesterday, he told me he was in the school bathroom, all by himself 'using his #2' and he 'peeked' around the corner at him, and that was the last time he saw him yesterday. Now I have explained to my boys when we die we go to heaven or hell, so they are not expecting to see their grandpa... My little one plays with his big brother and we have kids at my house ALL the time it seems... so it is not from lonliness. I don't know how I feel. We lived in an apartment about 2 years ago (which would make Deven 5) and he saw a boy.. that looked like a friend in school, but he was mean and would pinch Deven... he was terrified... we moved soon after... now this.
     
  8. dianetavegia

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    I do not believe your 7 year old is seeing dead people. Seven is a very fear filled age. Seven year olds worry about their own death, the death of their parents, running out of gas or money and sickness. Between that and over active imaginations, a flicker of light or something glimpsed out of the corner of their eye turns into something spooky.

    What type movies and t.v. shows do you allow your child to watch? Even simple cartoons can be too much for a child that age. Courage the Cowardly Dog has ghosts, spookie guys, aliens, demonic bugs, etc. Fairly God Parent's fight bad genies, Dexter's Lab, Scoobie Doo,,,, the list goes on. There is NO WAY a seven year old should be watching prime time t.v. and yet I have a 4 year old in Sunday School who watches the 'Freddy Kruger' type movies and then his parents can't figure out why he's so physical!

    That being said..... Invisible friends are so very common. Children will do as Betty's son and tell elaborate stories about their fun times or discussions with their 'friend'. An only child or a child dealing with a new baby in the house, a lonely child or a child not wanting to take the blame for things quickly adopt these new friends. Our oldest had 'Ralph Harris'. We had to set a plate when Ralph was in town. Ralph had 3 daughters and a mercedes. Ralph showed up when Daddy took a job traveling all over the U.S. and Canada. He came and went for a number of years and we still laugh over him today. Our family thinks Scott invented Ralph to care for our family when Dad was out of town. It made him feel safe.

    PLEASE stop talking about this with your son but instead, reassure him that there's no one there. Questioning him or giving in to his fears will only make him more fearful. There is no ghost in your house.

    Your Seven-Year-Old: Life in a Minor Key (Less than $2.00 used on Amazon but in most libraries)

    Your Seven-Year-Old: Life in a Minor Key Louise Bate Ames, Frances L. Ilg Published by Delta Publication date: December 1,1993
    Description
    Your Seven-Year-Old is devoted to the delightful but often anxious and withdrawn child of Seven. Although any seven-year-old will have moments of exuberance, security, and happiness, in general this is an age of introspection. As it begins, parents and teachers may welcome the quiet after the tussels and tangels of Six. But once the child of Seven starts to withdraw, it's almost as thought he doesn't know where or when to stop. Seven-year-olds feel picked on by family, friends, and teachers alike; they worry that no one likes them; they expect every little task to prove too difficult to handle; tears come easily at this age.

    Page 3 begins a section on fears, imagination and worry.

    (You can read a good portion of the book on Amazon.com by clicking on the 'book cover'.)


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    Well I didn't let them watch anything but the Disney channel before deciding it was all terrible and had the cable shut off. I can't stop talking about this simply because I don't ignore anything that my children say.. no matter what it is about and I do not want to make him feel as if he can't talk to me, that I won't believe him or listen.

    26And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.'

    27"He answered, 'Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house,

    28for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.'

    29"Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.'

    30" 'No, father Abraham,' he said, 'but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.'

    31"He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.' "

    Now... your verse holds true if that is all you read.... however... they are talking about people passing from heaven and hell and back...that is not what I am talking about.. I was in a bad car accident when I was 13 years old and a woman with long black hair held my hand and told me everything is going to be alright. I was not 'put under' because of the seriousness of my injuries..I am now 33 and can still remember that as if it happened yesterday... now.. I know that it wasn't an imaginary friend.... just as I know this is not his imaginary friend.. how easy it would be to say... there is heaven and hell and we are here... that is not that simple.... the devil is alive and his demons comb this earth every minute of everyday... how do you explain a mother drowning her children, or people killing people... to eat them... that is PURE EVIL... and if an ANGEL can hold my hand..... it is not that cut and dry.
     
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    Oh dear! Diane, my seven year old granddaughter went through this at four years old. I hope that she is not going to go through this again.

    My mother once told me that we can't always explain all happenings in our lives with logic and we shouldn't try. Does that make sense?

    Luvnlife33, Your son either thinks he sees someone or he is telling you he sees someone.

    I found early on that my feelings about something seemed to be transfered to my children. If I was afraid, they would be afraid. If I was happy, they would be happy. Be careful about transferring fear to your son.

    Be more accepting of what your son tells you. I would listen and change the subject.

    We are told when we are dealing with older people who have dementia to not argue with them when they tell us that they are seeing people or events that cannot be explained.

    As Diane says, there are no ghosts. We are not seeing dead people.

    Another thing that happened with my now seven year old was when she was six. When she painted a house or room, there would be faces in the windows. This concerned me. I asked her about the windows. She simply said that she was drawing curtains. As an adult, I thought she thought people were watching through the windows. As a child, these were just curtains. I still don't know why they looked like faces, but they were her design. Simple!

    I would not make too much of this.
     
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    Luvnlife33, I did not see your last post before I posted.

    I am not suggesting that you ignore your son or what your son says. I am saying, "Don't make a big deal out of it."

    I didn't ignore my children. I don't ignore my grandchildren. Sometimes, all we have to do is listen. They really don't want our comments. They just want us to listen.

    If you believe in angels and demons, why do you think this little boy is evil?
     
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    There have been many cases where 'apparitions' have been seen many times by people in certain houses. People who have gone into those places unaware of the previous 'sightings' have seen the same things.
    We moved into a house one time and 'something'..I didn't see her, I felt her..followed me around for about the first week we were there. It was like she was just curious about me and would peek over my shoulder or look around me to see what I was doing. It was like she finally decided that I was ok and left. I never felt her again but she didn't scare me. I just felt curiousity and amusement coming from her. I was 47 yrs old at the time and not given to illusions.
    When my mother was a child, her family moved into what would have to be discribed as a 'haunted' house. She and her two sisters had to share a bed and at night 'something' would pull the covers off them, even with all three of them holding onto to it for dear life. Something also would pinch them. A figure would come through their front door and on out the back. There was a door to a bedroom that had a lock but even that wouldn't prevent it from coming open during the night. No one in the family could open it without unlocking it first but it would be open the next morning. This is not something that mother or her family would make up. It isn't something that they would 'joke' about. My mother was a very serious and truthful person.
    I am convinced that things 'happen'. I can't explain it nor can I give any scripture to back up this kind of activity...I just know that these things do happen.
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    I'm transfering this thread to our General Baptist Discussions in hopes some of our more learned men will feel free to join in the discussion.

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    Well I do not feel nor does my son feel the boy is 'evil'.. I have asked Deven if he was scared.. he just said kind of... I don't know.... I am saved, my husband and my oldest son, my little one (Deven) understands the concept as best a 7 year old can and has asked Jesus to live in his heart..... so I am not scared of some sort 'possession'.. however... it is strange that he would see one that pinched him 2 years ago and now a different one now.
     
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    That we adults excuse real observances as "an invisible friend" is a rationalization and a way of dismissing what we ourselves cannot otherwise explain. I think that children are so innocent that they are thereby vulnerable to the spirit world. And I also believe that those invisible friends are manifestations to be taken seriously.

    Praying for a hedge of protection around our children accomplishes far more than the invisible friend phenomenon.
     
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    My wife and I have had 11 children (all one family).

    Our kids had a friend named Bubba.
    Each set of 2-3 would pass him on to the next set.

    Today they are all adults except one daughter (who is 17 going on 30) and when they get together they often laugh about "Bubba".

    BTW, Bubba was the one who did EVERYTHING unexplained (ate all the cookies during the night, broke mom's flower pot, etc).

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    I've never had a "Dead" friend! All my friends are alive and well!

    King David's little baby died and David replied--"He can't come to me---but I will go to him"(meaning at his own death)

    I have known folks say they have "seen" their loved ones who have died---one lady up in north Mississippi came to church one Sunday with a brand spankin' new Fur(Fox) coat on---so I quized her and she said that she talked to her husband the night before she bought it(the coat) and he said it would be alright to go ahead and get it!"

    Sometimes folks can become so infatuated and so mentally involved in a desire to "visit one more time" that their mind begins to halucinate and it becomes as if they are in the room with them!

    Folks who have died can no more visit us---than we can visit them! Name one scripture that can back a visit up! You can't!

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    Recently, I had to go out of town to attend my uncle's funeral. I wasn't able to get there until after he passed away.

    THe night following the funeral, we were all talking in the living room, and I, literally, saw my deceased uncle standing in the entrance to the room, look around, smile, and then leave. THinking my eyes were playing tricks oon me, I kept it to myself.

    The day before I left, I said something to another relative, and before I could tell him what I saw, he said that the night following my uncle's fuleral, he was in that same room, and when someone had told a joke, he heard my uncle laughing. After telling him what I saw, we decided to keep it to ourselves.

    Then, before I got onthe plane, I said something to my own mother. Before I could tell her what happenned, she said she saw my uncle leaving the lower stairs heading upwards towards the living room, at the same time I saw him, and at the same time my other relative heard him. After that, I told her what I and my other relative saw/heard. We decided to keep it to ourselves.

    A while later, my mother decided to call several of the people who were there. It turns out that all of my relatives who arrived after his death either saw or heard him. Those who arrived before he died, and visited with him, saw nothing.

    I have no way of explaining it. My best guess is that he was either coming to say goodbye, or he was looking to see who was in the house that he didn't recognize. Perhaps he wanted to make sure his widowed wife was in good hands. I dunno. He was a devout Christian, so seeing him after his funeral was quite a surprise to me. It was the last thing I expected. I have no idea what it means. I just know what I saw. I've never experienced anything like it before, and don't expect to after that.
     
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    I take these seriously because they are very real to the children, but I don't consider them bad. Just because I believe that this is an invisible friend does not mean that I do not pray for our children.

    I would like to know your definition of "spirit
    world". What do you mean by spirit world?

    Are you saying that these sightings are evil?

    I am praying for luvnlife33 and her little boy that God will guide her and protect her and her little boy.
     
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    The visitor may not be dead.

    The boy is not saying he has a friend and describes him as a playmate or pal as he would a made up friend. He doesn't include him in his play in any way.

    Angels and demons have roamed this earth since the beginning of time. We limit our possibilities because we are limited to our understanding. I have gave scripture referance for the return of the dead and the sightings of spirits. There are even more than those I gave.

    I believe children are more likely to see what we don't because they are not all ready preprogramed to ignore or explain the unexplainable. They are truthful in their feelings and thought. Unlike us that conform to what others believe. We are afraid to admit to something that others might not agree with us on or denigh.

    Unless we be like little children we shall not enter the kingdon of Heaven. Worship in spirit and truth. God is spirit. We have become a world of the blind. For thousands of years we have been teaching our off springs to denigh what is not explainable. For that reason we dont see the hand of God writing on the wall or a death angel standing with sword in hand. Or do you not know that some have entertained angels unaware? Limit your beliefs and you will also limit your blessings. All things are possible with God.

    If we stop exploring the unknown or the unexplainable we will cease to grow in knowledge.

    I have 5 children and 8 grandchildren. All had make believe playmates. As one mama to another I encourage you to listen to your young son. Watch and pray. Even if it truns out to be nothing, you can know for sure you took him serious and believed in him. Sometimes that's all we need is for someone to believe in us.

    In God we Trust,
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