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Discussion in 'Forum for Polls' started by HOHNancy, Feb 27, 2005.
If you were on the Titanic....
The ocean liner named "Titanic" was claimed to be "unsinkable". When the ship hits an iceburg, it is starting to sink, costing many people's lives, with some survivors in lifeboats. When they were ready to have the people in lifeboats, they said "women and children first", and the men were left behind. I read that there were some women on board too that died. This was in 1912.
There is a major movie picture that starred Leonardo DiCapro and Kate Winslet called "Titanic". I enjoyed it when I saw it in the theaters when it first came out in 1997 (I was 27 then).
If YOU were on the Titanic, and the ship is going to sink, what would you have done if you were on the boat? Why or why not?
When I saw the ending of the movie where they were showing Rose going back to the ship with all of those people and seeing Jack on the staircase...I was thinking "Was she dreaming or did she die?" I found out later that it was she died because the people there were the ones who did not survive.
I have a hearing loss, so during that time I didn't realize there were bad language in it...but later I found out there was. I only saw the visual part of the movie...of course, I didn't care for the nudity in the film but the rest is fine.
Anyway, I would've gotten on the lifeboat.
To be honest, this poll is too delimiting. Too much would depend on circumstances beyond our control; i.e., what class passengers we were, the side of the ship on which we happen to come on deck, whether we could speak English, and whether we were skilled in sailing (one man, a yachtsman from Canada, made it into a boat on 2nd Ofc. Lightoller's side by proving he was skilled enough by jumping onto the fall and climbing down).
As for who survived, most steerage (3rd class) passengers did not,and most men of every class did not. Only 4 1st class women did not survive, and 3 were reportedly by choice. Most crewmen, and almost all working the pumps and power systems below, did not survive. There were 3 suriving officers, each of whom had distinguished sea careers far outlating the Titanic.
Many survivors met unusual fates. Chairman of the White Star Line, J. Bruce Ismay, accused of cowardly forcing his status and boarding a boat, went into exile in Ireland after the board hearings and died years later without talking further about the disaster. Harold Bride, the junior wireless operator, who stayed as long as there was power to transmit and then swam to an overturned boat, mysteriously disappeared and covered his 'tracks.' Frederick Fleet, the lookout who saw the iceberg and signaled danger (just seconds too late, of course) committed suicide by hanging. Jack Thayer, teenage son of a wealthy publisher, also committed sucide in 1944 after his son, Jack III, was killed in World War II.
A recent documentary on Titanic showed footage of inside her today, main gates to steerage (3rd class) areas were still locked! So if I could have afforded to be on her in the first place I'ld still be there.
I pray I would have John Harper's attitude about it...But more likely than not I'ld have Groucho Marx's
I hope that was assuming that we know ahead of time? Also is this the new Titanic Cruise ship or the old one? In the new one I'd call the Coast guard and tell them to hurry!
On the old Titanic of couse I'd grab a life boat while staying near anything that might float (just incase there a Murphy's law about these things). Very interesting poll though.
I would get off the ship, trade in my ticket, and stay in England for a while.
There are just too many unknowns. If I were older and my children no longer needed me, I could not leave my husband to die alone and yet he would tell you he'd force me to save myself. If the children needed me, I'd go but it would destroy me to leave him behind. There is no way I could honestly answer what I'd do. I'm terrified of water and won't go on cruise ships, etc. so I don't think I'll ever have to face this decision.
Bro. James Reed
At my age, I would not want to leave my husband. I do not like it when they separate the women from the men when having a lifeboat drill aboard ship. I always get in the row in front of my husband. They assure us that there is plenty of room and woman and children will board first and then the men, but I want to hold my husband's hand.
Every man for himself, if you get me on one of those things.
What was interesting was that in reality there was a group of Salvationists on board the Titanic (Members of the Salvation Army) who removed their life vests and gave them to others who did not have them, stating that they would not be needing them as they would be going home. Wheras the others might like to wear them as it may give them more time to make a descion for Christ.
That IS interesting Ben. Good stuff.
Titanic is intriguing. I have a book published right after the sinking. If it were in better condition it would be worth a "cheese of a lot of money" as my sister would say.
And my God can sink any ship he wants to sink.
I'd stay behind... not 'for' some good reason... but for 'that' very thing in and of itself... so that another person might survive... that would be reason enough wouldn't it???
Wouldn't need a life raft. I'd stay behind too, on dry land.
Once the Titanic had been hit by the iceberg, what would have been the most logical action to take to assure greatest survival of life?
Hint: The ship was promoted as being "unsinkable" because it had 16 watertight compartments, any 2 of which could flood, and any 3 of the first 5 (from the bow). The line felt safe with the "unsinkable" label because of the unimaginability of enough damage to enough different compartments. But the collision affected the first 4 compartments and only about 2 feet of the 5th. The bulkheads, which were made watertight by the sealing of the large overhead doors, only reached to E deck, the 3rd level above the hull. So the water would overflow when the 5th compartment flooded and the ship listed far enough toward the bow, then the same thing would happen in the 6th compartment, and so on until the ship foundered.
So, what would have been the most logical thing to do?
I would like to think I would be noble etc. My favourite bravery thing is the catholic priest Maximillian Kolbe who took the place of a Polish man who was going tobe slaughtered in a German concerntration camp and endured a horrible death so this other guy survived.
Heroism by any is simply that heroism!
Since nobody wants to take a shot, the answer is: To OPEN the watertight doors of the compartments being flooded, enough to be sure the next compartment is flooded by water coming through the door instead of overlapping from the compartment ahead. The ship would still founder-- there was no avoiding that, once the first 5 compartments were damaged-- but that way, on an even keel, it could have floated for as long as 8 hours; more than enough time to save everyone, provided they had unlocked the gates into the steerage quarters.
Shipbuilder Thomas Andrews was last seen in the 1st Class smoking lounge, completelly drained and ready to go down. Some wonder whether he had thought of this, perhaps even attempted to carry it out. If he had, he might have been threatened with death by the crew, who thought this was like throwing gasoline into a house on fire.
Documentary going back a bit tested the open vs closed doors question with a model, closed doors won by a knockout.
(Web-surfed for couple of hours trying to dig up further info, but link above was best I could find on it so far.)