I'm White and Still Feel Apprehensive When a Cop Appears in my Mirror!

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  1. righteousdude2

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    Honestly folks, regardless of your race or skin color, do you not feel some emotional apprehension when in your rear view mirror a cop begins following just a little longer than what you believe to be normal?

    Who doesn't feel fear when you peek through your door peephole and see a cop on your porch?

    And when faced with a confrontation between you and the cop(s), do you not have respond with more respect than you may even have or show towards your spouse?

    I am interested in hearing from those on the board regarding how you treat cops when personally faced with getting a ticket, or being told a neighbor called on you for making too much noise? It doesn't matter what the reason, when face to face with a cop, what is your frame of mind?

    Thanks for your honesty. I think we need to see that regardless of race, we all exercise a certain amount of respectful mannerisms not often accorded the general public. I do not see cops as anything but authority figures that deserve my respect under any and all circumstances.

    WHAT SAY YOU??? :type:
     
  2. matt wade

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    I treat cops the same way I treat anyone else I have to deal with. I don't feel I need to treat them with any additional level of respect. If they do their job properly and interact with me properly then I interact with them in "nice" way. If they fail to do their job properly, I'll tell them so.

    Case in point, last night a family member was in an accident and they called me to the scene. I showed up before the police officer. The other party was obviously at fault and they admitted it. When the police officer showed up he wanted to only facilitate an exchange of information and not write a report up. We asked him to write up a report and he balked. I had to become insistent with him (and was prepared to escalate to his sergeant) in order for him to write the report.

    This guy didn't want to write the report because it was extra work for him and he was lazy. He wasn't worthy of respect and I treated him like the lazy worker he was.
     
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  3. gigabyte71

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    I haven't had to have any interaction with LE in about 20 years, but I would say they needed to be treated with respect, always saying as little as possible. In terms of percentage of 'bad' cops, I believe there are very few, the ones that are really a danger to liberty and freedom are those who sit back and say nothing about those who are 'bad'.

    How do you convince someone that the law they are uphold is actually contrary to the Constitution, if you act like a jerk? I believe all checkpoints are illegal, as they violate the 4th, but to verbally attack a cop for doing their job is just stupid. It would be far more productive to speak to them friendly and explain how it violates the 4th. When they tell you it is the law, and that SCOTUS didn't declare it unConstitutional, you can ask them about the Constitutionality of ObamaCare. But still all done respectfully.

    Imagine if Paul had addressed the people of Lystra who wanted to offer sacrifice to him and Barnabas, if he had verbally attacked them for doing so?
     
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    If someone is constantly having to interact with police what are they doing that causes that. If that is the case then maybe that someone needs to make a change in their behavior that will allow for less personal interaction with cops.
     
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    If you treat these folks like you treat me, with disrespect attnd disregard, I can only imagine the results. Since I've met you, you have shown to me a mean spirit, and I tend to think that you would be an argumentative person, with persons in authority.

    Please don't get angry with me, but I imagine you would be quite difficult to ticket.:flower: Plus I see you as even going to traffic court with the intent of disproving the charges. And while that is your right, I just find it hard to believe you would thank a cop for a ticket, maybe a warning in lieu of a ticket would result in a "thank you!" But I see you arguing a ticket through going
    to court. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    I just want to commend you on doing a great job treating others as you would like to be treated. Your most recent topic belaboring on the "bullies" on this board said lots of things about being kind to one another and treating each other nicely. The first opportunity you have to post something negative towards me, you jump on it.

    Would I go to traffic court? Yes, if I was unjustly given a ticket, of course I would!

    Would I thank a cop for a ticket. Nope. Even I was in the wrong, I wouldn't thank him. You are right there.

    Would I treat a cop with contempt and disregard? If they treated me in that way first, yes of course I would. If they fail to do their job properly, of course I would. If they do their job properly and justly, then we can certainly treat each other with mutual respect.

    There's no one in this world, save a few cases, that I need to stick up on a pedestal and give some "respect" to if they are acting like a jerk. If they act like one, they can expect to be treated like one.
     
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    No. Yes. I don't know. What is "emotional apprehension"? Fear of having an emotion? Hmmm...

    I don't.


    Only if silence is considered respect.

    Have my right hand on the steering wheel and my left hand outside the car window handing the officer my drivers license.


    I'm not doing anything wrong. Watch how quickly I get this person out of my space.


    Just stop it with bringing up race in practically every thread.
     
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    Well I have some friends that are cops so I learned much about their job and the stresses that come with it. I know traffic stops are very stressful for them because they are in a lot of danger so I do everything I can to de-stress them when they come to my window (I may have had a bit of a leadfoot in my younger years). I have my hands where they can be seen, I roll down my window completely, and I answer honestly, which I think surprises a few of them. Usually I have gotten a warning, not sure if its because I'm a women or if the honesty was so refreshing to them.
     
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    When I see a cop in my rear view mirror with his lights flashing, I'm not real happy with myself. Never been stopped that I didn't deserve it, even as a teenager.

    Not apprehensive at all. I just dig out my license , insurance, and CHL and take what I have coming.

    Defensive driving again.:BangHead:
     
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    What is CHL?
     
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    In the past two weeks I've interacted with three different LE agencies. None of the three were in "adversarial" situations, and I'm white and live in a nearly all-white state. (VT/NH/ME consistently rank bottom 3 in African-American proportion, though IMO they are no more - or less - racist than elsewhere in the country.)

    My father-in-law passed away suddenly, at age 89, and because nobody was home for the call from the assisted living facility where he had lived, a sheriff's deputy was dispatched with the news. By the time he arrived, I'd called the AL place and learned the news, so I thanked him and that was it. This past Sunday evening I was southbound at 40 mph and a deer was westbound at 25, and as a result I got a visit from a state trooper, who estimated the damage and began his report - courteous and proficient. The next day I went back to the collision site and up into the woods to check whether the deer (it had run away after the hit) had made it. She lay dead about 500 feet from the road, and since we like deermeat and the law is clear, I had a game warden stop by and tag the critter so I could legally possess it. Again, pleasant and professional.

    In 50+ years with a driver's license, I've been pulled over 4 times, though 2 came in my first year driving (ran a stop sign where everyone else always did - no excuse, and no sticker on windshield - I'd broken the previous Beetle windshield with my head, and the still-valid sticker was on a piece of it on the floor.) Never had any issues there, either. All were white-on-white, and pretty low key.
     
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    Concealed Handgun License

    It's a real good idea to let the officer know you're packing.
     
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    Sorry, I forgot that Texas wasn't a gun friendly State.
     
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    Wasn't? You're joking, right?
     
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    I live in Georgia, and compared to our gun laws, Texas has very restrictive laws. There gun laws are one of the main reasons I would never live in Texas.
     
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    Grow your hair long, and drive and old van with Grateful Dead stickers plastered all over it. You WILL be pulled over by some cop who has a huge problem with you.

    That being said, the Northwest has the most professional highway patrol officers in the U.S.
     
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    If you say so. Our laws work pretty well. Looking for open carry to be passed soon. I wouldn't exactly call them too restrictive, but a few things need to be changed.

    I'm glad you like Georgia. You should stay there if gun laws are your only consideration for where you reside. :thumbs:
     
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    You seem a little paranoid. Try taking a break from watching the news. They want people stirred up so that they will watch more.
     
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    No I do not feel fear. Why would I?

    No I do not fear. However, I am curious.
     

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