Immanuel velikovsky

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  1. Rubato 1

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    I need to get my hands on the books by Velikovsky. I suppose that if I took a train or bus to the University of Chicago (which is the closest library to me!!), I could read on the way back, but this is not ideal. Is anyone familiar with his work, and can you help me?
     
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    I read some back in the 1960s & 1970s, even had a couple.
    I traded them for good books, like Science Fiction
    (which were at least honest - all the books I have
    mentioned are FICTION).

    Anyway, Velikovsky read a lot of old books (way
    older than the Bible). He found phrases and
    sometimes whole sentences that shows a common
    happening. He only wrote one book, but he rewrote it
    several times.

    Here is Ed's short summary of stuff he read over 30 years
    ago:

    When the planet Venus came out of planet Jupiter,
    (leaving the famous Red Spot visible even today)
    it came so near earth a few times that it:
    1. provided the pillar that guided Moses & the children
    of Israel
    2. provided the weird days in Joshua.
    3. knocked the earth out of a 360-day-year
    into the current orbit of 365ΒΌ-day year

    Vel still provides more of the hoaxes of
    snopes.com (Urban Legends) than any other
    single person :)

    I think it would be a read worth the trip, unless
    you are trying to justify your favorite conspiracy theory.
    (I used to be a conspiracy theorist, but books like
    Vel's books convinced me conspiracies are way overrated :( )
     
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    Doesn't he have a lot to say about how to reconcile timelines with the bible and evidences for obscure people and places etc, in addition to fantastic theories?
     
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    Reading Velikovsky is like dumster diving: one finds lots more used diapers than dollars.
     
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    I'd like to hear what you have to say about that. Is this the way to do it, or would you rather through private messages?
     
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    Let us do it here.

    My recommendation:

    If you have a NIV (New International Version). Read it in 2008.
    If you don't have a NIV buy a TNIV (Today's New International Version). read it in 2008.

    This reading of an inerrant copy God's Written Word writtten
    for the 20th Century English speaker (NIV) or for the 21st Century English speaker (TNIV) will do your soul much more good than studying the brain flatulence of Vel.

    (flatulence3 = windy or empty in speech; pompous; pretentious)

    TNIV > Vel
     
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    I have read two (and-a-half) of his books, so I am no expert on him. In addition, the one and-a-half have only to do with his Chronology, not his comet that became venus, etc.etc. The other book was on the greek legend of Oedipus and tits correlation to a contemporary kingdom of Egypt, and has little to do with Chronology or "Worlds in Collision."

    What exactly is the beef with him? I have seen very little (so far) that I would call incredible (impossible to believe), but it rather reconciles secular histories (which everyone knows are quite tenative already) with that of the Bible accounts.

    In studying ancient history I have gotten the impression that there is an ancient inscription for any theory you want to promote. But this is just as true for J. Henry Breasted as it is for I.V.

    I would like to know; I was thinking about having my students read "The Peoples of the Sea," but I hesitate because of the controversy. So, all I want to know is what the specific issues are with his theories. Are you familiar with the controversy?
    Thanks,
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