There are a number of people on this Forum, including pastors, who seem to have tha attitude that those members living in adultery or fornication, or perhaps other grievous sin, should be counseled rather than disciplined. One says: Now it really makes no difference whether one is 22, 35, or 65, sin is sin, but until one is confronted with his sin and confesses his sin it is unlikely that he will change. Scripture tells us this very clearly: And the response, not to the Scripture, but the rather long quote above:: Jesus Christ did not challenge people to get their lives to change. If I can read, and I believe I can, Jesus Christ changed people: In the "new birth" we are a new creation in Jesus Christ, our lives are supposed to be changed. If two people are shacking up, supposedly have an experience of grace, and continue to shack up then they have no evidence that they have undergone a salvation experience. What say you, the Baptist Board?