Was talking to a man at a church event (not the one I attend) on Thursday and we got into heaven and hell theology - more his doing than mine as I wasn't really in the mood for a serious chat. It was quite an eye opener, as he basically said the ''Lake of Fire'' is not a place of eternal torment but rather a literal second death. He did say that some people will be eternally tortured, but these are only people with the mark of the Beast. His view was that some unsaved people's future will be:- First Death > Period in Hades > Judgement seat of Christ > Lake of Fire > Second Death > Non-existence. What I found most unusual though, was that he said that Jesus will visit Hades and attempt to convert those who are not converted. He seemed to be suggesting that those who haven't heard the true gospel will get to hear it after death. I am not sure whether he believes people will get a second chance in Hades if they have rejected Jesus on Earth. So, for those who are converted in Heaven it will be:- First Death > Conversion in Hades > Judgement > Heaven (or New Earth) Personally I didn't really buy it. One thing I thought was a bit strange was that he claimed that the Rich Man who wanted Lazarus to send a drip of water to him couldn't have been in that much pain, as he only needed a drip of water. Luke 16:24 being the obvious problem with this (''I am in agony in this fire''). I do hope he is at least partially correct however, as I like the idea of those who have not heard being given a second chance after death. But the idea of Jesus going down to Hades or being down there now is a bit odd.