Iran Placing Medium-Range Missiles in Venezuela; Can Reach the U.S.

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  1. carpro

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    http://www.hudson-ny.org/1714/iran-missiles-in-venezuela

    Iran Placing Medium-Range Missiles in Venezuela; Can Reach the U.S.

    by Anna Mahjar-Barducci
    December 8, 2010

    Iran is planning to place medium-range missiles on Venezuelan soil, based on western information sources[1], according to an article in the German daily, Die Welt, of November 25, 2010. According to the article, an agreement between the two countries was signed during the last visit o Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to Tehran on October19, 2010. The previously undisclosed contract provides for the establishment of a jointly operated military base in Venezuela, and the joint development of ground-to-ground missiles.

    At a moment when NATO members found an agreement, in the recent Lisbon summit (19-20 November 2010), to develop a Missile Defence capability to protect NATO's populations and territories in Europe against ballistic missile attacks from the East (namely, Iran), Iran's counter-move consists in establishing a strategic base in the South American continent - in the United States's soft underbelly

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    The situation that is unfolding in Venezuela has some resemblance to the Cuba crisis of 1962. At that time, Cuba was acting on behalf of the USSR; now Venezuela is acting on behalf of Iran.

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    Back in the 1962, thanks to the stern stance adopted by the then Kennedy administration, the crisis was defused

    Nowadays, however, we do not see the same firmness from the present administration. On the contrary, we see a lax attitude, both in language and in deeds, that results in extending hands when our adversaries have no intention of shaking hands with us. Iran is soon going to have a nuclear weapon, and there are no signs that UN sanctions will in any way deter the Ayatollah's regime from completing its nuclear program. We know that Iran already has missiles that can carry an atomic warhead over Israel and over the Arabian Peninsula. Now we learn that Iran is planning to build a missile base close to the US borders. How longer do we have to wait before the Obama administration begins to understand threats
     
  2. KenH

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    The Hudson Institute is a known neocon supporting organization.

    "Nor has the network of institutions that the neocons rely upon melted away, from the Hudson Institute, where Scooter Libby and Douglas J. Feith are now ensconced" - www.amconmag.com/article/2009/jan/12/00006/

    No one has proven that Iran is even trying to build a nuclear weapon, much less that it will have one soon.
     
  3. Robert Snow

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    If these missiles are actually delivered to Venezuela, we will see if the U.S. demands their removal.
     
  4. carpro

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    If Obama is president, the U.S. will do nothing either before or after they are delivered.
     
  5. carpro

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    I think most of us know you are a defender of Iran's nuclear program.

    The story posted is verifiable. Can you disprove it? Or do you prefer to stay blind to this problem until it's too late.

    I predict you're going to look pretty stupid pretty soon.
     
  6. KenH

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    Or it could be you who is shown to be incorrect.
     
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    Not a chance. Not on this issue.

    You have to be a Ron Paul acolyte and dogmatically blind not to see what Iran is doing.

    This issue is one of the reasons why Ron Paul has never been taken seriously as a presidential candidate. He"s an advocate of the wait till they hit us with a nuke before we react school.
     
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  8. KenH

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    Wanna bet?
     
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    Absolutely!

    Any amount at all is OK with me.
     
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    When NAZI Germany's notorious V-2 Medium Range missiles found their marks-----the British FINALLY got serious about what they could do to do away with such weapon

    When Iraq's version of the V-2 comes careening down on Ken's house---it's gonna be too late for Ken to start careing!!!! He won't even have time to kiss his rear end good bye!!!! :laugh::laugh:
     
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    In WikiLeaks: Russia's doubts about Iranian missiles

    The Russians were prepared to talk "seriously" with the U.S. group, the summary says. Their message was Iran is struggling to lengthen the range of missiles that could carry heavy loads, such as a one-ton nuclear warhead, that might threaten the region or beyond. The Russians said their basic conclusion is that "Iran's ballistic missile program continues to be directed toward developing combat ready missiles to address regional concerns," not targets like the United States.

    This was also the assessment made in May by the International Institute of Strategic Studies.

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    The key issue is Iran's pursuit of more modern and powerful solid-fuel missiles that could hit medium-range targets, such as those in the Middle East or Europe. Iran has been working on such a missile, called the Sajjil-2, which it has flight tested. (See my earlier post about it.) In the meeting, U.S. officials were more worried about this than the Russians, who said Iran continues to stumble with solid fuel technology. "In Russia's view, Iran appears to be having very serious problems with engine development," the summary says. U.S. officials countered that Iran has a decade of experience with short-range missiles using solid fuel, importing equipment from China, and could now extend it to larger missiles.

    The Russians said Iran was a long way from building intercontinental ballistic missiles that could hit the United States. "Russia said its bottom line is that Iran lacks appropriate structural materials for long-range systems, such as high quality aluminum," the summary says. "Iran can build prototypes, but in order to be a threat to the U.S. or Russia, Iran needs to produce missiles in mass quantities, and it lacks materials sufficient for the type of mass production needed to be a security threat. Russia further noted that the technology for longer-range missiles is sophisticated and difficult to master."


    At another point, the Russians said they think the North Koreans are working on a new, 100-ton capacity rocket engine using older technology, clustering the motors or stacking them. But Russia said the technology hasn't been actually spotted.

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    There seems to be some doubt as to whether Iran even has functioning medium range missiles. At this point I'm thinking Anna Mahjar-Barducci's article is probably more neocon hype than reality.
     
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    Is the proper response to start two more wars or to build a missile defense that works?
     
  13. KenH

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    Okie doke.

    If by July 1, 2011, Iran has not built a nuclear weapon (you agree with the article writer that Iran will have a nuclear weapon soon), then you will not post on the Baptist Board for 1 year. If by July 1, 2011, Iran has built a nuclear weapon, then I will not post on the Baptist Board for 1 year. And we will seal this by having a moderator ban the loser of the wager to enforce it.

    Deal?
     
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    Don't forget the Stuxnet worm, which has successfully put the Iran nuclear program off by at least a year. Maybe you should make that July 1, 2012.
     
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    Regardless of who the president is, this situation should be watched closely, (which I am sure is being done) and if necessary the appropriate action needs to be taken. I find it difficult to believe that Venezuela, with Iran's help, would be able to deploy these missiles without the U.S. knowing about it.
     

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