Is 2 Chronicles 7:14 for today?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by 2T316, Oct 19, 2013.

  1. 2T316

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    2 Chron 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

    Is that for Old testament Israel or does the call to "revival" hold for today? This actually showed up in a discussion between me (a Baptist), a 119 ministries person, and a "strong" dispensationalist.
     
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    There was a thread on "revival", perhaps you might consult that thread. The answer to your question might rely on where one stands theologically. Patience, some will provide their answers for you.
     
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    You asked the same question in that thread? If so, I found the thread: http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=89440&highlight=revival
     
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    No reply to your question in that thread (or mine), oh well.
     
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    I am convinced the "revival" must be granted by God, however, there are scriptures such as you have shared that indicate that we are called to "do and be" in order to be be prepared for revival. God, simply because he is a sovereign God, can cause revival to occur when and where he chooses. But, he also chooses to work with nature and freedom that he has granted to mankind as well.
     
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    Great Question

    The issue is how to discern whether something said to a biblical audience, either in the OT or in the NT, contains timeless principles that can be applied to people today.

    And the body of Christ does not have a well understood mechanism for deriving principles. For example, did some of what Jesus said to His disciples, apply only to them, or can we claim those promises? Cessationalists like myself say the sign and wonder gifts were for the authentication of the New Testament, and thus were part of the foundation that was laid. Therefore those gifts are not in evidence today, they ceased with the death of the NT authors. Naturally others claim all that stuff applies to them, and they speak in tongues and have healing powers.

    Returning to your question, we first must deal with the fact that the Old Covenant was in play, and thus many things about the Old Covenant are not applicable under the New Covenant.

    Who are "my people?" Clearly these would be the believing Jews and proselytes, under the Old Covenant. So if we say something of this can be applied to us today, we must see if we can find it endorsed in the New Covenant. For example James 4:6 indicates God gives grace to the humble, and 4:10 seems to present the same principle as found in 2 Chron. 7:14.
     
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    The examples given by Israel are most assuredly for the church today.

    What about being a Baptist excludes one from being a dispensationalist? Truthfully, it is the only position that makes sense.
     

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