Is America's War Winding Up?

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  1. KenH

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    As I said months ago, if we are not out of Iraq by the end of 2006, or at least moving substantially that direction, then I think we will be in a quagmire in Iraq.

    We defeated the Iraqi military machine in early April 2003. After almost four years by the end of 2006 we had best be well on the way to disengagement by then.
     
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    Pat as usual is telling it like it is and speaking
    truth to power but he made a real bonehead
    statement in his opening ..does not help anything
    looks like he was sticking it to Wolfowitz.

    People need to realize when bush says "stay the
    course" he has moved the goal posts ..it means
    a new constitution ,elections, and then draw
    down and does not mean more troops..which is
    fine by mean it means saving lives and treasure.

    We best not lose the luster and the shine of
    overthrowing Saddam Hussein to an Iraqi Islamic
    State that is Shia dominated backed by Iran.
     
  3. KenH

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    When we leave Iraq we cannot dictate to the Iraqi government with whom it makes alliances.

    That's just the way it is.
     
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    Let's face it. Iran is Iraq's neighbour and Saddam started the Iran-Iraq war. This is a golden opportunity for the new government of Iraq to improve relations with a country they will always be in close contact with.
     
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    We'll never be out of Iraq, this side of the rapture, KenH. We still aren't out of Germany.
     
  6. KenH

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    At the "rapture" this present heavens and earth will cease to exist, and that may still be a thousand years or more away. I doubt the U.S. would be in Iraq for a thousand years or more.
     
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    :rolleyes:

    MOST Baptists believe otherwise.
     
  8. KenH

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    So what? I don't based my beliefs, in any area, on what a majority believes. Do you, LE?

    I am a Christian. Baptist simply identifies what church I am a member of and whose soteriology I agree more with than that of the Church of Christ that I left six years ago.
     
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    Army Planning for 4 More Years in Iraq

    The Army is planning for the possibility of keeping the current number of soldiers in Iraq _ well over 100,000 _ for four more years, the Army's top general said Saturday.

    In an Associated Press interview, Gen. Peter Schoomaker said the Army is prepared for the "worst case" in terms of the required level of troops in Iraq. He said the number could be adjusted lower if called for by slowing the force rotation or by shortening tours for soldiers.

    Schoomaker said commanders in Iraq and others who are in the chain of command will decide how many troops will be needed next year and beyond. His responsibility is to provide them, trained and equipped.

    About 138,000 U.S. troops, including about 25,000 Marines, are now in Iraq.

    "We are now into '07-'09 in our planning," Schoomaker said, having completed work on the set of combat and support units that will be rotated into Iraq over the coming year for 12-month tours of duty.

    Source: AP Military Writer
     
  10. KenH

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    I am hoping for a "best case" scenario.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Me too!!
     
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    We're still in Germany--basically because we don't want the "Ruskies" there!! The invasion force of WW2 moved rather quickly to occupation force of 1946 to deterrant force since then! The idea since 1946 was not to prevent another NAZI takeover---but a Communist takeover!
     
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    So will we stay in Iraq for the next 20+ years to prevent a terrorist takeover?
     
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    The Pentagon is already making plans for staying at current troop levels for the next four years.

    I just wish they'd find a way to be more effective and kill more terrorists. It seems like they can't do it right, however, which is disappointing to say the least.

    Maybe they will invade Iran next and take out some of the support for the insurgents.
     
  15. KenH

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    We are not going to invade Iran. It would be an absolute disaster to invade Iran. We are placing too much hardship on our soldiers to staff our forces in Iraq already.

    We would have to fund a lot larger standing army to fight a major war in two countries simultaneously. And I don't see that happening with our humongous yearly federal deficit.
     
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    Maybe Bush could use the standing U.N. Army that he wants to create with $660 million of the US taxpayers money to do peacekeeping in Iraq so he can use the US troops to invade Iran. :rolleyes:
     
  17. KenH

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    I'm not sure if $660 million will buy even one jet fighter.
     
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    This is a UN Army we are talking about. [​IMG]
     
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    That was pretty much the idea going in because we need a base there in the area. Unfortunately, the occupation was badly bungled and may not be feasible if we cannot restore order sometime soon.
     
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    Agreed.
    Hey, we alreadly are fighting two wars simultaneously, aren't we? Is Afghanistan minor? Remember it was an Afghan war that helped do in the former USSR.
     

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