Is Gen 1-3 "real" or is Atheist Darwinism "Real"?

Your blind faith in the discredited doctrines and junk-science methods of atheist darwinism is beginning to show.

But I commend you on preaching style in service to your cause.

In Christ,

Bob

 

My initial quote from him was 1993... or were you not really serious about the "30 year" argument above?

The point is - rather than simply being "confused" by an atheist darwinist who in fact DID have some moments of clarity - why not learn from him?

UTEOTW will slavishly ignore anything that Patterson says that does not conform to his own blind faith to all things atheist darwinist. But why should you swallow that same devotion to a discredited doctrine?

In Christ,

Bob

 

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Originally Posted by BobRyan
Well how about the latest example where we have TWO camps of EVOLUTIONISTS duking it out. One camp is on the "intelligent design" side of the fence and the other on the atheist darwinist side of the fence.

Ken Miller IS a creationist arguing for intelligent design. HIS idea of it is to fit it into his world view of creationism.

But that is NOT what we find happening in most cases. Usually it is EVOLUTIONISTS that are debating IN FAVOR of intelligent design!

The brain-washing coming from atheist darwinists is that "only a creationist would argue in favor of intelligent design". But they RELY on the ignorance of their reader when they make such wild bogus claims.

Read the transcripts from the trial in Penn last year and you will SEE that BOTH sides were evolutionsts! One side promoting darwinism and the other the "intelligent design" model for evolutionism.

How can you even begin to study and understand these issues while just drinking nothing but koolaide from atheist darwinists???



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Originally Posted by BobRyan
And as Simpson proved to the world in his horse series - the fraudulent practices of evolutionists in the past have resulted in such glaring examples of story telling regarding a sequence "that never happened in all of nature" such that even atheist darwinists (acutal atheists in this case) all agree that it is "lamentable" - the way the fraud was promoted before school children.

Are you serious? Would you actually let inconvenient facts get in the way of the atheist darwinist stories they are telling you??

If so -- you shall have your reference



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Originally Posted by BobRyan
"And then through starvation, carnage and extinction God eventually evolved both APE and Man on parallel tracks. But one day as hominids by the millions sat bashing in their daily catch of monkey-brains God decided to doom them all to hell because one of them -- lets call him Adam-- had a bad thought".

"And then as God observed them slinking about their caves - He decided to RESCUE them from that hell-to come by sending His Son after they all were sufficiently walking upright so that ONCE again they could be returned to that paradise from which they fell".

What a joke this makes of the Gospel itself!!

No ... but 2Tim 3:15-16 "I do read".

BTW - you still did not address the point... where did you learn to do that? Let me guess - Atheist Darwinists again?


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Originally Posted by BobRyan
Can Darwin be trusted to KNOW something about Darwinism's naturalism -- when HE says at the end of it all - IT IS atheism??!!

And you would be interested in Darwin giving up on God stating that his own teaching on Darwinism was not compatible with the Bible -- and taking this stand at the end of his life --- because why??

In Christ,

Bob

 

The question for the "thinking reader" is "How in the world can a fossil SEQUENCE that NEVER HAPPENED IN NATURE be dug up and presented AS IF it were fact"??

But that would be the thinking, objective, well-reasoned reader of course. Not one slavishly devoted to the discredited doctrines of atheist darwinism.

In Christ,

Bob

 

I could have predicted that "that" is where we would get dead silence from the true believers in atheist darwinism.

But it also raises the question of why Chrstians would take such giant leaps of faith in favor of atheist darwinism over what God says! How in the world did Atheists become the higher-authority to be sought out and believed in faithfully (no matter what the disconfirming inconvenient facts) - over God Himself!!!??

In Christ,

Bob

 

Historic revisionism is not helping you make the case now that you failed to make earlier UTEOTW.

Recall that when you admitted to "inferring" false ideas into my posts that I have not placed there - and then trying to accuse ME of saying what you merely "insert" as your "proof" of me misquoting someone - I simply pointed out that such transparent tricks could never actually work outside of your imaginative thought experiments with reality.

How in the world can you keep coming back "pretending" to have done something successfully - when in fact the posts show that you failed??

Who do you think that is fooling? ME?

That discribes what you admitted to doing in the case of my posts - but you have YET to show that I have done it.

Why do you keep pretending that this little inconvenient fact keeps escaping you UTEOTW???

Indeed I quote atheist darwinists -- your idols -- remember?

Your unproven accusation - oft-repeated but NEVER supported is "noted again". Recall that I have devoted an entire thread to giving YOU the opportunity to sustain you wild accusations with actual fact -- and you failed... in fact you RAN from that thread and had to be begged and pleaded with to come back to the thread created FOR YOU and support your own slander against me.

If I have "asserted a meaning" then show it --

If I have said "this atheist darwinist is no longer an atheist darwinis" (which is the mind-numbing argument you have used in the past AS IF I have ever made such a statement) -- then SHOW it instead of engaging in entertaining thought experiments where you simply "imagine it".

In Christ,

Bob

 

If I have "asserted a meaning" then show it --

If I have said "this atheist darwinist is no longer an atheist darwinis" (which is the mind-numbing argument you have used in the past AS IF I have ever made such a statement) -- then SHOW it instead of engaging in entertaining thought experiments where you simply "imagine it".

This is a "dance" that UTEOTW does time after time enviting me to expose his wornout false accusations.

The quotes stand and can be easily understood EVEN though UTEOTW imagines they can not.

The quotes DO NOT claim that atheist darwinist stopped being atheist darwinists. Obviously -- but this always comes as a surprise to UTEOTW who considers that ANY TIME Atheist Darwinism is not shown in a good light - he must be having a bad day and BobRyan must have done something amiss.

In Christ,

Bob

 

In UTEOTW's continual quest for "revisionist history" we get him to climb out on THIS limb -- time after time

In all of UTEOTW's "stories" some key inconvenient fact is covered up.

In the case of this bit of revisionist story-telling UTEOTW PRETENDS that the issue for atheist darwinists is "that they told a story using model-A when they later all agreed to imagine that story using model-B instead".

How pathetic (to borrow one of UTEOTW's summaries).

The inconvenient "detail" is that THEY DID NOT simply "tell a story" in this rare case... (for normally they WOULD simply confine themselves to story telling)... but in THIS case they claimed to have DUG UP A FOSSIL SEQUENCE SHOWING the very DETAILS of the story they were telling.

When they say "NEVER HAPPENED IN NATURE" they are referring to their own BOGUS manufactured fraudulent fossil SERIES that was simply ARRANGED by their own DEVOTEE to FIT their story telling!

In other words - telling a story then UPDATING the story (as UTEOTW would spin it for us if only he could) is NOT their problem. Their problem is in claiming to have FOUND the very fossil sequence IN THE FOSSIL record that SHOWED THE DETAILs of that failed story - the VERY DETAILS they NOW assert are utterly false!

But there is something far more facinating here than the dishonesty, perfidity and junk-science methods of atheist darwinists like Simpson and others who now ADMIT to the mistake... of FAR more interest is that ANY CHRISTIAN could POSSIBLY cling ON to the old discredited lies of those atheist darwinists - WHILE THEY ADMIT to their mistakes and move on to more story telling!

How in the world can it be that a Christian is "left behind" faithfully defending the abandoned fort of Atheist Darwinists on that debunked, discredited horse series SHOWN in their text books????

This causes me to feel some sense of saddness for UTEOTW.

In Christ,

Bob

 

Here at last is perhaps the very saddest part of UTEOTW's downfall in the junk-science candy-store of atheist darwinism. He now makes the totally discredited argument that IF an Atheist Darwinist ADMITS to any flaw in the story-telling or methods of Darwinists -- that could possibly be used by a bible Believing Christian to SHOW to the world that the FLAW they ADMIT to actually EXISTS -- then by definition it MUST be some kind of fancy "misquote" SINCE the atheist darwinist will not view their OWN MISTAKE as a reason for THEM to become a Bible believing Christian!!

If UTEOTW were not so sincere about this blunder it would be laughable!!

I SHOW where Atheist DARWINISTs admit to their OWN blunders and I conclude that their methods are NOT sound -- but rather that the statements of Atheist Darwinists prove that they are using the methods of junk-science and blind-devotion. Proven because they in some cases will ADMIT to what has been done wrong for ALL to see and explore.

UTEOTW argues that IF THEY would not ALSO agree with that conclusion - then ANY statement they have made no matter how easily seen and read by all - MUST have been taken out of context!!

If I had not seen him circle back to this dead argument so often - I would be tempted to think that he was just having a bad day.

Were I to stoop to using UTEOTW's own failed argument against him - I could easily claim that every quote he ever made of anything I said was "dishonest and taken out of context" as he repeatedly tries to accuse me of doing when I give EXACT QUOTES of his atheist darwinist icons. But as I said - I can not use such methods.

In Christ,

Bob

 

Each time UTEOTW "quotes himself" when trying to complain about my argument - you JUST KNOW he is up to his old tricks!

Reader beware!

The junk-science methods of darwinism used here by UTEOTW as we see in his transparent effort in the previous post should be warning to all that -- accepting junk-science for-fact in one area will ultimately spread to other areas in your life as UTEOTW is demonstrating.

In Christ,

Bob