Is God Present In The Lake of Fire (Hell)?

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  1. Marcia

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    This is related to the "What is Hell?" thread.

    A few posted that since God is omnipresent, He is present in hell/the Lake of Fire but He withdraws His love, light, mercy, etc. so those there only feel the torment of not having God's love.

    Others said that this is the 2nd death, and death means separation, so God is not there.

    What do you think?
     
  2. sag38

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    If I am eternally separated from God then I am separated from Him. In my simple way of thinking that means that He is not there. The Lake of Fire is a place void of God.
     
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    My take is the He is there in the same way that David said, "Though I go down to sheol, yet Thou art there." That is, the knowledge of God will be there as well as the knowledge that He created hell and the lake of fire where they will dwell forever!

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    This whole idea and question is akin to asking can God create a rock so big he cannot lift it.
     
  5. Allan

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    Truly. It is like asking "Can God create a place that He can not be?" - However, I think the problem is actually more in the phrasing of the question than in the question itself.

    The fact that scripture states it's (Lake of Fire) smoke rises before Him day and night forever (Revelation) shows that it is a place which is always before the Lord, or maybe better would be that which is never removed from His sight/knowledge, which illistrates that God is not 'specifically in' the Lake of Fire. Scripture declares it to be a place of darkness which is the absense of light. So is God 'actually in' the Lake of Fire? I think it depends on meaning or understanding one is bringing to the table to be considered.

    As in 'literally' there like God upon His throne is there? No.
    IF the meaning is to refer to the Lake of Fire as being a place that God does not know or see what is going on because He is so seperated from it, then again the answer is: No.

    ALL things are laid bare before the eyes and knowledge of the Lord and thus in one sense the Lord is everywhere and in another, there are places He is not actaully or personally there.
     
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  6. Marcia

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    I like your answer, Allan!
     

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