Is it blasphemy...?

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  1. jhickman

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    ...When some of the more rabid KJVO crowd accuse modern translations of not being God's word, or even worse, when they accuse it of being from the Devil?

    I'm not questioning anyone's salvation, but it seems to me that when they make statements like this they're treading on dangerous ground.
     
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    Doesn't all false teaching come from the Devil? Are the parts of modern translations that contain false teaching really God's word?
     
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    You've had 42 posts so far, my friend, while others here have had way more than that. Are you sure you have read all the posts in the translation forum ?

    Seems to me, everytime I read a post there, it's the other way around. It's the KJVO's who are getting all the bashing, sometimes the tenor of the posts getting so personal it gets irritating.

    Maybe they have a forum or board somewhere where they do that, but, I don't think they do that too often here.
     
  4. amixedupmom

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    It really depends on who you are. And, where you are. That is what they firmly believe. And, that is correct FOR THEM.
     
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    Gail Riplinger does in her book (call all Translations other than the KJV). Some translations are better than others. Some ARE from the devil...perhaps the Jehovah's Witness bible and the radical gender-neutral Bible from Oxford Press. I think a spirit of humility is necessary in these discussions-no English translation is PERFECT, only the originals are.
     
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    The KJVO crowed is just against everyone except themselves. They hate everyone.
    They strain at gnats and swallow camels.
    The main ones are David Cloud , E.L. Bynum, and Peter Ruckman.
    They have their websites that feed a hatred to Roman Cahtolics, United Pentecostals, Charismatics, Worrd of Faith, Methodist, and even Southern Baptist.
    At least they are an equal opportunity criticism group.
     
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    I've said this before, but when the KJVO, anti-CCM crowd gets to Heaven I hope their neighbors turn out to be long haired, NIV toting Christian rock singers. :D [​IMG]
     
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    When I get to Heaven, I can count on there not being any arrogance and fleshly pride.
     
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    Translating the original language into our mother tongue is a human endeavor. Therefore, it is subject to error because of the fallibility of the human process. Although I use a KJV bible in my teaching, I compare the various translations on any subject under study. It is true some translations are better than others. Some translations are really commentaries. The serious bible student will consider these facts in his search for the truth.
     
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    So~my parents and theirs and even theirs, who had no access to none of what you are talking about...they were not being serious or *searching* for truth? :confused: All they had is what I've had for 50yrs since the Lord saved my wretched soul; the kjBible, aka The Holy Bible.
     
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    It will be full of people who read the bible, no matter which translation it was, it won't be just kjvo's.

    Maybe other helpful translations were not available 100 years ago, but they are now and are very helpful for serious dig deep bible study.
    your own quote applies....
    which is just what kjvo is.
     
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    I wouldn't call it blasphemy. I would, however, call it false doctrine.

    That being said, when we finally go to be with the Lord, we're each going to find that every one of us has been guilty of at least one or two items that would qualify as false doctrine, but that in the big picture, God forgives our human limits of understanding, and doesn't hold those against us, just as he doesn't thold our sins against us.
     
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    yes
     
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    Granny:

    I was not questioning the sincerity of a generation who did not have access to the translations available today. I do believe it is a wise thing to search and compare translations to get the meaning of words found in the Bible. For example, the KJV states in Romans 8: 16  The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God. The text describes the Holy Spirit using the pronoun itself. Jesus in the KJV of John 16:13, calls the Holy Spirit a He. It is obvious both of these terms are not the same. Therefore, it behooves one to investigate why and what is the most accurate translation of the word in the original text. It should be noted that the American Standard translation is the most accurate in Romans 8:16 as it employs the use of himself in the text. He and himself are both personal pronouns. One could not resolve this difference if they did not consider the original langauge and context of the passages at hand. Would it affect ones salvation? I doubt it. However, it would give some ammunition in declaring the Bible is contradictory.

    My previous post should be considered in the context of the discussion at hand as it pertains to the present under the conditions implied, not
    as an indictment of those who do not have the tools implied previously. I believe you can get to heaven just knowing the english language and the Bible. I meant no harm to anyone. If I offended you, I apologize.
     
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    Naw~you didn't offend me and thanks for caring! Sorry if I seemed abrupt. God Bless.
     

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