Is it time to drop the term fundamental?

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  1. Ulsterman

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    With the word "fundamentalist" now linked so closely with Islamic terrorism, and the media's insistence upon calling every crackpot in Christendom a fundamentalist, do you think the time is coming when when those who hold to the absolute authority of Scripture etc., are going to have to adopt a different term with which to identify our position? If so, what term or terms would you suggest?
     
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    I did a quick thesaurus search of fundamentalist:

    Entry Word: fundamentalist
    Function: noun
    Text: Synonyms DIEHARD 1, bitter-ender, conservative, old liner, right, rightist, right-winger, standpat, standpatter, tory

    I reckon this old greybeard out in Kansas, USA might just be a diehard standpatter :rolleyes:

    God bless.

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    Drew
     
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    It is an interesting question you pose.
    Of course, any name change is not to entered into lightly, and without much deliberation and discussion.

    Actually, in the past, these names (Baptist, Fundamentalist, etc.) have been thrust upon us by others, usually those opposed to the doctrines we teach.

    What could they come up with this time??
     
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    An article in a recent issue of the GARBC's magazine proposed the term "foundationist" to replace the term "fundamentalist". They listed 7 NT verses with the word "foundation" in them which they used to define their core beliefs. Interesting idea.
     
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    I'm willing, what about Christian?
    ;) Murph
     
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    I'd go with that one Murph. [​IMG]
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    Foundationist does sound to me a better term. It has been discussed before, but Fundamentalist is different in Australia, in that it includes Pentecostals.
     
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    The word God is also now linked closely with Islamics. Should we adopt to differant terms....or just tell them that OUR God Jesus Christ founded America not muhammad!

    I say stick with it. Its just a label and if I am going to be labeled a fundy....who cares, God surely doesn't!
    DD
     
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    In the past the term fundamentalist separated a believer from modernism. liberalism etc., if it now serves to align believers with antichristian movements such as Islam, or confuse the boundaries between belief in the Bible and blind relgious fanaticism, then I think God does care. Incidentally, whilst I accept the Christian heritage of America, I think you go too far when you suggest the nation was "founded" by the Lord Jesus Christ, if you keep on thisroad you will soon be agreeing with Mormonism.

    [ January 21, 2003, 05:29 AM: Message edited by: D Moore ]
     
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    D Moore. Ill jump in here and back you up on that. I think the American Indians founded America. :D :D :D
     
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    Oh Oh . . . now you're really in trouble Ben!! [​IMG]
     
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    I am really tired of minority groups taking away my words! :mad: I used to be "gay", now I have to settle for being "happy". I intend to stay a Fundamental Baptist, thank you very much! [​IMG]

    Sue
     
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    With respect, Sue, I think you and others are missing the point. I suppose where I am coming from is this; If the term "fundamentalist" (which is a term I love) is proving to be a barrier to our witness because of its associationship with unsavoury groups and because of its perception as 'evil' in the wider community, does it not behove us to find an alternative designation? After all, the word "fundamenmtal' does not appear in the Bible itself. There is no Scriptural reason for holding on to it at all cost.
     
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    What's in a name? They were called Christians first in Antioch....and who called them Christians? The enemy. We will be called by any name desired by our enemy.

    My name is Jim, who happens to be a Christian, who happens to be a Baptist. Whatever label they want to give me is of no consequence. I know in Whom I have believed, and I know what I believe. Nothing else matters.

    The term fundamentalist has never been a generally accepted term in Canada, except when the liberal controversy arose in 1925 and up to the mid fifties when it embraced far more than fundamentalist Christians. Since that time it has become a term of divisiveness. Many of our American brethren have shunned us in Canada as being fundamentalists because we do not embrace either Dispensationalism and pre-millennialism, yet we have survived. I can live without a label.

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    This has also been brought up by Bob Jones III:

    http://www.bju.edu/aboutbju/pca/spring02.xml
     
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    The way the world is going as far as being "tolerant", ( ex. Canada) fundamentalist are the ones that are going to either be dropped or drop out.
     
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    I don't think the word "Fundamental" needs to be dropped from our language. I think as long as the context clearly determines what is meant by it, it is still a very good word.

    God Bless You,
    Charlotte
     
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    In my mind "fundamentalist" evokes neither fear nor suspicion. It evokes images of big yellow school buses, REVIVAL! banners, "church camp" evangelism, and hobby horse preaching.

    Before there was fundamentalism there was Landmarkism. Had the Baptists of this country followed Landmarkism modernism would never have come into Baptist ranks and Baptist Fundamentalism as we know it would never have existed.

    Mark Osgatharp
     
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    I just want to point out that the quote was from Bob Jones III, not me. I have yet to utter an opinion on the matter.
     

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