Is New Cremation a Form of SOYLENT GREEN???

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    The attached article is one that is bound to cause concern among many in our society, especially when you consider the "Yuck" factor of the remains being recycled through the local sewers and into Recycled/Reclaimed Water distribution plants!

    SEE:http://www.pe.com/local-news/breaki...-flameless-cremation-idea-raises-concerns.ece

    So what are your thoughts of this new form of cremation being used in some states and considered in others?
     
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    Thanks for the neat...

    ....reminders of a strange sci-fi thriller. :thumbs:
     
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    "of flushing the byproducts into the sewer system."

    Well, if it was good enough for Goldie the goldfish...
     
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    OK, I'll be serious this time. Many years ago I worked the hazardous waste system at a plant where we primarily plated electronic components with silver and gold. I have used both Potassium and Sodium Hydroxide many times. They are a base, and commonly found in products like Drano. They will neutralize acids. What you basically end up with is water and "salts". These salts can be captured with a flocculant. In our process we did add "Floc" which attracts and captures these salts. The floc becomes heavy and sinks to the bottom forming a sludge. This sludge is vacuumed off and usually filtered. You end up with a thick sludge, which we sold and is used in fertilizers. The other byproduct is water.

    I am sure the same process could be used here, although the article did not talk about filtering off the byproducts of the process. I do not believe there would be anything harmful in the human body, but as you said, there is the "yuck" factor. If these byproducts are filtered out, what remains is very clean water if done properly. We used to test our water every 15 minutes and it was cleaner than your drinking water that comes out of your faucet.

    Sodium Hydroxide is bad stuff. I still have a scar on my finger where a drop burned a small hole in me. That stuff will eat right to the bone.
     
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    "Your very own LifeGem diamond(s) can be created from the carbon in cremation ashes, a lock of hair, or both. Of course, not only do we turn ashes into diamonds and hair into diamonds, we also have a full line of cremation jewelry, rings, and pendants to accent your beautiful LifeGem cremation diamond."

    Weekly Creep-Out Quota Definitely met.
     
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    What is this Solent green you speak of?
     
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    It was a very famous movie starring Charlton Heston as a police officer investigating a murder. The movie takes place in the future when all of earth's resources were depleted and there was very little food. During his investigation Heston discovers that dead people are being made into green wafers about the size of a Pop Tart for food. People are eating these wafers but are not aware they are made from dead bodies. The folks that are doing this try to kill Heston in the movie.

    In the last scenes from the movie Heston screams "Soylent Green is people!". This scene became very popular.

    View the clips I showed above. These dead people were dissolved in some sort of chemical solution and then the wafers were created from the byproducts, very similar to how most water treatment plants treat water.

    This modern cremation technique is similar, a person's body is dissolved in a very strong Potassium or Sodium Hydroxide solution. This is a strong base with pH over 14. This solution would then be neutralized with acids to bring the pH to somewhere close to 7 (neutral). At this point the solution would separate into water and suspended particles. These particles can be collected with a flocculant that attracts and gathers the particles. They can float, but normally they become heavy and sink to the bottom where they can be vacuumed off and filtered. I worked as a hazardous waste technician in a large plating factory many years ago and used to operate this very type of process to neutralize hazardous chemicals, mostly strong acids used to clean parts in the plating process. We also used very poisonous chemicals like cyanide (used in gold plating).

    If properly done, hazardous and poisonous chemicals can be neutralized, the byproducts safely collected, with pure water the other byproduct, which can be returned to the water system.

    Here is a photo of a solution treated with a flocculant. All the particles in the solution are attracted and bunch together, sinking to the bottom. Above these particles is pure water.

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    The problem with this cremation process is that they are not separating the particulates and dumping the entire solution back in the water system. That would be like putting the solution shown on the left back into our water.
     
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