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Is 'Priest' biblical?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by nate, Apr 30, 2006.

  1. Rev. Lowery

    Rev. Lowery New Member

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    psalms 111:9 He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name.

    It doesn't mean that Gods name is holy and reverend. It means Gods name _____ is holy and reverend. This implies a different meaning when used by clergy its simply a position and not meant to mean that I or anyone else is revered.

    To be Biblically correct my name should read,

    Bishop Lowery

    Bishop is often not understood here in the USA as a Protestant title for clergy but is often used by the RCC so I went with Rev. instead its more widely understood but I prefer Preacher, Brother, Bishop, Minister, or Pastor. On all official mailings and such I use Rev. Dr.
     
  2. Matt Black

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    Eliyahu, you can't stop other BB members from posting in response to your posts! If you don't want them to respond, then don't psot anything yourself...
     
  3. Eliyahu

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    You must have a hard time to pretent to look holy as Chemarim, don't you?
     
  4. Eliyahu

    Eliyahu Active Member
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    Matt, it is quite possible to avoid any further crashes by not responding to any specific person if the person state the filthy words repeatedly.
    I don't respond to him and he doesn't have to either.

    Let's read the following:

    Eliyahu said:
    5. They appear in NT all the time as plural, except the case of definition , which rules out the Mono-Pastoral system, which means that every local church had several elders, not the single, mono-pastoral dictator system.
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    Chemnitz said
    This not true, επισκοπον as it is in Titus 1:7 is singular. Just because it appears in the plural in other places does not mean every church has multiple and only multiple elders.


    I mentioned the EXCEPTION of Definition because Definition ( or Qualification) is to be mentioned in singular by its nature. Let's say a Cow is a Mammal or has 4 feet. In that case, it is mentioned as singular by its nature.
    In such case, should I say to him " Stupid man! commenting without reading the post properly!" as he comment to me " as he says :I was willing to leave the whole incident in the pass despite the deceitful remarks ?



    Tit 1:7 explains Bishop should be such and such and therefore it is talking about qualification or definition. In other places like Phil 1:1, Acts 20:17, 20:28, elsewhere Episkope appears plural all the time.


    He refused to apologize for what he said. What is the solution for these garbages?

    Originally posted by Chemnitz:
    You ought to be ashamed of yourself for spouting such filth.

    Originally posted by Chemnitz:
    How dare you insinuate such garbage.
     
  5. Matt Black

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    The solution is to stop bringing your earlier dispute up; you're not going to resolve it (except maybe by PM), so don't keep bringing it up and derailing this thread, otherwise you'll have the mods down on us and they'll probably have to close the thread, which would be a shame, particularly for Nate who started it. You were the one who referred to your dispute with Chemnitz, not Chemnitz - why on earth did you dig it up?
     
  6. Eliyahu

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    Whenever he continue to respond to me in the same way as he did before, the only way is to remind him of the past problem. I am not creating new filthy words but referring to what he said.
    This is not the first time, and he continues. Anyway, I feel this has to be brought up to the Mods.

    How would you say to the followings?


    Originally posted by Chemnitz:
    How dare you insinuate such garbage.

    Satan was able to trick you into doubting God's promises for you and thereby drive you to the brink of destruction.

    I was willing to leave the whole incident in the pass despite the deceitful remarks made towards men such as myself
     
  7. Matt Black

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    Why is that old dispute relevant to this thread?
     
  8. Eliyahu

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    Main point with Reverend is that such word is used for God, no human being is Reverend.

    Jesus kindly ask us to be called simply " Brethren" as in Mt 23:8, and the Bishops or Elders were called Brothers each other as we read :

    Brother Paul ( 2Pet 3:15), calling Bishops in Philippi ( Phil 1:1, 3:1)and Brother appears about 330 times in NT and more than half of them were used for meaning Brothers in Christ.

    There is no distinction between Laymen and Clergymen. There is no first class and second class believers in the church.
    All believers are the Priests ( 1 Pet 2:5-9, Rev 1:6, Rev 5:10)

    We used to call any preachers in our church as Brothers. If they are elders, we call them " Brothers working as elders" which is quite biblical.
     
  9. Eliyahu

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    To avoid any further dispute.
     
  10. Eliyahu

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    To avoid any further dispute.
     
  11. Chemnitz

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    duplicate
     
  12. Chemnitz

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    So sue me for missing one little phrase :rolleyes: , not everything people do is out of maliciousness. I goofed all you had to do was point out the mistake, not accuse me of being deceitful.

    But it still doesn't prove your point that it is against Scripture to have only one pastor in a congregation. In fact, the number of pastors for a congregation is never spelled out. All you have are a bunch of inferences that do not prove your point, because they can be easily explained as men from different congregations from with in the same city or region.

    I can tell you why it is relevant, Matt, it is the oldest trick in the book. When you know you can not win the debate by facts, you try to win by trying to cast doubt on the honesty of the opposition.
     
  13. Matt Black

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    To avoid any further dispute. </font>[/QUOTE]How does raking over the coals from another thread like this 'avoid any further dispute'? Your reasoning strikes me as being about as logical as a pork chop at a bar mitzvah
     
  14. Chemnitz

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    MMMMM... Pork Chops. [​IMG]
     
  15. Eliyahu

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    I enjoy these garbages burning on the Charcoal !

    Chemnitz said

    Shame on him and his advocators!
     
  16. nate

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    That's the only reason you are on this board...to rant and to rave. So stop posting in any of these forums-if you do not want "further dispute".
     
  17. Eliyahu

    Eliyahu Active Member
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    As the poster refuse to apologize and continue to spout out the dirty words, it is very much appropriate that I remind him of what he spouted out and I will enjoy it!
    I don't rant but reveal what kind of man he is! Telling the truth whenever he respond to me with the false and wrong accusation.
     
  18. Jim1999

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    You mean when you poured the same vindictiveness on me, when, in fact, I did nothing to you?

    I see, enjoy yourself. I am confidant about who I am, and suffer no insecurities.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  19. Chemnitz

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    Shame he did that to you Jim. Personally, I think you are great guy, Always so cheerful :D . I guess he was not satisfied pour out his vitrolic words on me. Funny part is, I never used any 'dirty' words, go figure.

    Cheers,

    Chemnitz
     
  20. BobRyan

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    knowing how much the pro-RCC faction here hates to see RC sources quoted --

    Thomas Bokenkotter's "A Concise History of the Catholic Church"
    How did the Pope and the Papacy “evolve”?
    (In fact his claim was made in the same form as the claims made in the “Donation of Constantine”. He asserted that it was Peter’s right retroactively and then presumed that all who claimed succession to Peter must also have this grandfathered “right” given to Peter from the Bishop of Rome)
    NOTE:
    The term “pontiff” formerly applied to any bishop, but became corrupted when adopted by the “supreme pontiff” as Pontifex Maximus, an exclusively pagan title. Many bishops employed the title “pope” (meaning “father”) in the early Church. Pope Leo in the fifth century was the first to use it officially. Pope Gregory in the eleventh century, by decree, reserved the title for the Bishop of Rome.
    [/quote]
     
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