Is putin a new hitler?

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  1. poncho

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    By Servando Gonzalez
    March 18, 2014
    NewsWithViews.com

    Speaking at a campaign fundraiser in California on March 3, 2014, CFR agent Hitlary Clinton said that Putin’s behavior in the Crimea is reminiscent of the tactics used by Hitler before Word War II. The CFR’s warmongers have quickly metamorphosed Putin from a devout Communist into a fanatic Nazi.[1]

    But, is there some truth in Hitlary’s assertion? Lets see.

    In the first place, currently there are no doubts whatsoever that Putin is not a Commie. If he were one, the pro-Commies in Obama’s gang would have accepted him with open arms as a brother. But, is he a Nazi as Hitlary claims?

    A few years ago I was captivated by a radio program I discovered quite by chance late in the evening: The subject was Secret Societies, and consisted of a panel of experts composed of Linda Moulton Howe, Alex Jones, Steve Quayle and Jim Marrs, well-known researchers in the field of conspiracy theory.

    One of the things they mentioned in the program, which aroused my curiosity, was a report produced by the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), an organization formed mostly by so-called “neocons” supporters of the Bush administration. The 90-page report, entitled “Rebuilding America’s Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century” was published in September 2000.

    In synthesis, the Report called for an era of open, uncontested global American imperialism based on brute military force. Because of the openness and cynicism in the way it told the world the course of action the conspirators will follow, some of the panelists compared the PNAC Report to Hitler’s Mein Kampf.

    Being a skeptic, I didn’t trust their words. So, the next day, I searched the Internet and I found the Project’s site, from which I downloaded a file with the Report. In it I verified that a paragraph quoted during the radio program by one of the panelists was actually there and it had been quoted literally.

    In stark cynicism, the authors of the Report mention that, in order to transform the U.S. military for the new challenges it will face, the process of transformation, “… even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor.” (Emphasis added)[2]

    Nevertheless, after reading Hitlary’s words, I checked the list of PNAC neo-cons who signed the infamous Project, and I couldn’t find the name Vladimir Putin on it. What I found, though, was that most of the neo-cons[3] in the list were CFR members. Moreover, I couldn’t find Putin in my 1921-2013 database of CFR members. So, unless he joined it early this year, Vladimir Putin is not a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

    By now some of my readers may have asked themselves, what does the CFR have to do with the possibility that Vladimir Putin may be a new Adolf Hitler? Well, it has, because Hitler came to power in Germany thanks of the efforts of some rich and powerful individuals, most of them Americans and members of the Council on Foreign Relations.

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    Just what is the difference between the Nazi, the Fascists, and the Communists?
     
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    Affording to Winman, a Caalvinist is synonymous with a Nazi .....oh ha ha ha:laugh:
     
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    Time....

    ....will surely tell. So if it works that way, is Obama going to be the modern day Neville Chamberlain?
     
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    Yes ...and he is already there. Out of curiously, if Joe Bidden had been podus would he take the same path?
     
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    The length of the cranial hair.

    Their leaders are all satanic thugs, exploiting the masses. Some Nazis think they are doing God a service. Hitler claimed to be a Christian. He had some sort of concordat with Pius(?) XII.

    Now what?

    Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

    Bro. James
     
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    I think some time in the prisons of each would teach us.

    Richard Wurmbrand spent time in prison during the Nazi (which is simply an acronym for the German Socialist Worker's Party) occupation of Romania, and then during the Communist dictatorship thereof. Paraphrasing and condensing his descriptions: one suffered under the Nazi's, one was brutally tortured under the communists. (He was a jew, by the way.)
     
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    Chamberlain might have been okay personally but he was thrown out of office because he failed to do any good.

    I think that Putin is more like Stalin, one of the greatest mass murderers of history. Afterall, Putin is KGB or Russian secret police. Hillary probably admires Stalin because his nickname was uncle Joe. Biden is considered as just crazy.
     
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    CMG......So how come his (Putin's) people are loving the guy? His popularity is at an all time high. Just because the guy was a spook is no reason to vilify the guy & try to paint him as the reincarnation of Hitler, Stalin or any of these other historical psychopaths. Remember, our own beloved President, GB Sr., was the head of the CIA therefore he could be considered a big spook.....this is the guy who coordinated with Clinton to give us NAFTA & told the USA public to "Read his lips....no new taxes" So show me where Putin ever lied to the Russian citizenry. In other words, who does our government want to vilify today? Is that part of BO's ....oh never mind, only dont trust this stinker to man up (BO I mean).
     
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    EWF, the KGB is a modern-day Pretorian Guard such as Nero had or as Raul Castro has today. They are secret police. One might have to be careful what one says about the dictator when the KGB is listening to everything. Corrie Ten Boom, who survived the German camps, said that she just testified to the KGB when she visited Russia because she knew they had bugged her room.

    Here is a very short video of Raul Castro's Pretorian Guard:

    http://elcubanocafe.blogspot.com/2014/03/dictator-of-cuba-arrives-in-cubazuela.html
     
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    I hear Hitler was also quite a popular guy. You may choose not see the "big lies," just as people throughout history and in our own country choose not to see the major ones in those they find acceptable and will attack if someone points them out, but it doesn't mean they do not exist.
     
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    The KGB ceased to exist, probably only in the use of the name, in 1991. It is now the FSB (Federal Security Service).
     
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    Ah yes, my wifes fathers family escaped Germany knowing full well that it was going down the tubes. Today, many of these folks (still with Cha r men accents) are some of the biggest patriots of the USA that its ever been my personal pleasure to see.
     
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    Again, the USA has our own "spook agencies" both global & domestic. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    But they're the good guys. So what they've been involved in overthrowing several Latin American governments, several middle eastern governments, the Libyan government, the Ukrainian government and are still attempting to overthrow the Syrian government by partnering up with bad guys, drug cartels, dictatorships and Islamic terrorists causing the deaths, displacement and suffering of millions of people and spreading poverty and chaos all along the way?

    They've just been freeing them all from their oppressors and making everything that's wrong in the world right for them! That's all.

    To say any of this is bad policy automatically makes one an anti American, a marxist or even worse a libertarian.

    And don't worry about the president and congress granting the executive the authority to indefinitely imprison and/or execute any one of us it deems to be a threat to national security without charges or trial it's all good because it protects us from the bad guys and don't worry about all our "spook agencies" listening in on and recording all our phone calls and reading all our emails without probable cause, "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear".

    They just want to keep us all safe. That's why we have to have homeland security, a civilian military, and a military trained federalized police force just as well outfitted and armed as our global standing army.
     
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    Ahhh, yup.......Grab your socks! :wavey:
     
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    No need I've had my bug out bag ready and near at hand for the last 10 or 12 years. Check out my "sticky" thread at the top of the page. :smilewinkgrin:

    Ya know it's weird to because I've been called "paranoid" more than a few times just for living up to the boy scout motto. Be Prepared! I always thought part of being prepared was being alert and aware of your surroundings. Apparently that's a lesson most folks have forgotten if they ever learned it at all.

    The people who followed Hitler all thought they were "exceptional" too. Back then at least they had somewhat of an excuse most of them didn't even know was propaganda was or how their own corporatist state used it to control them.
     
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    Actually Putin is popular because he is trying to restore Russian prestige.

    Similarly, Reagan is loved by many Americans because he restored American prestige in the world and the confidence of the American people that this was still the greatest country in the world; all this after the disaster in Viet Nam and the malaise of Jimmy Carter!
     
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    Exactly, Poncho!

    Just remember, folks--Big Brother LOVES us, and we LOVE Big Brother! And because of this we can trust that whatever he says is true, and whatever he does is right, whether it is in regards to matters foreign or domestic. :thumbs:
     
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    Yes and the limited government conservative movement was going like gangbusters. That all changed when G. H. W. Bush started us on the international path to his glorious New World Order. Then Clinton moved us further down the same internationalist road then along came G.W. campaigning on a non interventionist non nation building foreign policy because we were all wore out on Clinton's nation building.

    Then we was neoconned and right back on the road to the New World Order we went but this time it was different or so we thought. This time we were the New World Order and we were going to conquer the world without the UN and keep the world "safe for democracy" because we had a shiney new enemy threatening the peace and stability of the world. Reagan defeated the USSR so Washington desperately needed a global threat to keep the money and power flowing into the right hands. Mainly the government and the military industrial complex.

    So, ta da! The "war on terror" was born.


    After a few years that didn't turn out so well though. Oh, initially it looked like a great success nevermind all the constantly changing rationals for invading Iraq and all the lies that led up to it. Saddam was a bad guy after all! And torture suddenly was a good thing! Pssst, only we don't call it torture when we do it though only the bad guys torture people to get information. Remember we're the good guys.

    And that's when all of the liberals got sick of the neocons and tired of Bush grabbing power and making war on other nations and put Obama in power after he made all these promises to end the wars and bring our troops home then a strange thing happened the liberals promptly became quite about their dislike for war and power grabs as Obama turned around and expanded the "war on terror" into other countries even though he was and is working with Al Qeada as proxy fighters once again like we did in Afghanistan to help defeat our old global threat the USSR and pulled off one power grab after another. But all is good in the world if you are a liberal because "your guy" is office after all.

    Now the whole middle east and North Africa has been turned on it's head Al Qeada and radical Islam are spreading like wild fire and It's all gone sour so now instead of admitting our mistakes and trying to clean up our mess we relegate the whole kit and kaboodle to the back burner and treat our latest greatest enemy in the whole wide world as background noise and resurrect our old greatest enemy in the whole wide world once again

    Most likely to keep the money and power flowing into the right hands again.

    Mainly the government and the military industrial complex . . . again. And to get our minds off the complete disaster the "war on terror" has turned into.

    What would we do if Washington ever ran out enemies? I once asked. Now I know we'll just dig one up from the past brush it off and start all over again.

    I tell ya this last 40 years has played out like a bad soap opera. Plots and counter plots good guys that we support "all the way" turn into bad guys we have to later "dispose of" then oops they become useful again when another good guy we supported goes bad. On and on.

    Meanwhile everyone is so caught up analyzing each episode as it happens and doing their best to blame the other side for everything no one notices the obvious.

    It's all re runs! We seen all this before! How many times now?

    That's right and if you ask to many questions or try to point out the obvious lawlessness and corruption within both political parties or blow the whistle on one of the "spook agencies" that spies on everyone like we're the criminals acting above the law instead of them you're a stinking libertarian anarchist marxist commie Al Qeada loving traitor putting your own country in grave danger and probably a tree hugging liberal democrat to boot!

    And that last line there folks is right straight and I mean straight out of the National Socialist propaganda playbook.

    “Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” Hermann Goering.

    Don't believe he really said that? http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.asp
     
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