Is the Democratic Party pushing Marxism ?

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Is the Democratic Party pushing Marxism?

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  1. Revmitchell

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    Are the Democrats pushing Marxism these days in a much larger way? Are Obama's policies Marxist in nature? Do the Democrats have a great deal in common with the Communist Party USA?



    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/marxism
     
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  2. Crabtownboy

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    To even ask the question shows a great ignorance of Marxism. Have you ever read anything Marx wrote? Or Engles? or Mao?
     
  3. ray Marshall

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    I do not state this as a fact but I have heard/read maybe that the real writers remained in the background. Marx and Engels was used to hide the real writers of the Communist Manufesto.
    As a matter of fact, I do remember reading about that now.
     
  4. Bible-boy

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    Take a serious look at what the Communist Party USA is saying and at what the Democratic Party’s Socialist Agenda is saying about elections and politics in America and then remember this quote from Winston S. Churchill:

     
  5. Doubting Thomas

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    The Democratic Pary is pushing Marxism as much as the Republican party is pushing fascism.

    Take your pick. :BangHead:
     
  6. Salty

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    Or are Marxists infiltrating the Democratic Party
     
  7. poncho

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    The democratic party is pushing the same thing as the republican party.

    Statism.

    Statism—in fact and in principle—is nothing more than gang rule. A dictatorship is a gang devoted to looting the effort of the productive citizens of its own country. When a statist ruler exhausts his own country’s economy, he attacks his neighbors. It is his only means of postponing internal collapse and prolonging his rule. A country that violates the rights of its own citizens, will not respect the rights of its neighbors. Those who do not recognize individual rights, will not recognize the rights of nations: a nation is only a number of individuals.

    Statism needs war; a free country does not. Statism survives by looting; a free country survives by production.

    Observe that the major wars of history were started by the more controlled economies of the time against the freer ones. For instance, World War I was started by monarchist Germany and Czarist Russia, who dragged in their freer allies. World War II was started by the alliance of Nazi Germany with Soviet Russia and their joint attack on Poland.

    Observe that in World War II, both Germany and Russia seized and dismantled entire factories in conquered countries, to ship them home—while the freest of the mixed economies, the semi-capitalistic United States, sent billions worth of lend-lease equipment, including entire factories, to its allies.

    Germany and Russia needed war; the United States did not and gained nothing. (In fact, the United States lost, economically, even though it won the war: it was left with an enormous national debt, augmented by the grotesquely futile policy of supporting former allies and enemies to this day.) Yet it is capitalism that today’s peace-lovers oppose and statism that they advocate—in the name of peace.

    Source.


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  8. Bible-boy

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    Please start a new thread and provide evidence and sources that link Fascism and The Fascist Party of America to the RNC.
     
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    You hit the nail on the head!:thumbs:
     
  10. Doubting Thomas

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    Don't need to start a new thread, nor do I need to link the specific "Fascist Party of America" to the RNC in order point out that with the the neocon take over of the GOP that party--and the USA itself--is much further down the road to fascism.
     
  11. Bible-boy

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    The point of starting a new thread is to avoid driving this one off its topic and diverting attention from the issue raised by the question of the OP. Likeiwse, you failed to provide evidence and sources to back your claims. Therefore, they remain simply your opinion and as you know everybody's got one of those.
     
  12. Doubting Thomas

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    The point of my response not to disagree with the specific point of the OP, but to point out that BOTH major parties embrace ideas more in keeping with statist ideologies than with the principles of our founding fathers.

    As far as evidence, I'll elaborate...tomorrow. :cool:
     
  13. Bible-boy

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    Okay. In a new thread hopefully.:thumbs:
     
  14. Doubting Thomas

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    Fair enough. (Anyway, looks like I kinda started a little early in the "is the Bush administration fascist" thread.) I'll add my evidence to that thread tomorrow (and leave this one to those who want to point at the Marxism of the Dems.)
     

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