Rather than intrude into the debate in the thread Pre-Trib Rapture: Biblical Truth or Dispensational Fiction, I want to discuss (actually ask some questions) about the Dispy view that the Restrainer in II Thessalonians 2:7 (him who letteth) is the Holy Spirit. As I understand it, the Dispy view is that when the rapture occurs, and the church is taken out, the Holy Spirit, who indwells all believers (The "Church) is taken out with it. This gives rise to my questions: Who is the one who takes the Holy Spirit out of the way? The verse says he who restrains is taken out of the way. To be taken, there as to be a taker. Who takes God the Sovereign, Omnipotent Holy Spirit out of the way? Can't the Holy Spirit take himself out of the way? Does the view I have stated mean that the HS is confined to believers? Isn't he everywhere? Certainly he indwells believers today. But don't we also speak of the Holy Spirit being with us? Do we not talk about the Holy Spirit being present in our worship services. We, as the Bible does, speak of people being filled with the Holy Spirit, even though he is already in us. We even pray for God to pour out the Holy Spirit on (fill in the blank--me, us, our church, our nation, pour out revival on a people. Did not Jesus liken the Holy Spirit with the wind, which goes where it wants to? Another question: If believers are raptured into the presence of God, and the Son who sits at his right hand, is there a further need for the indwelling at that point? I am curious who the Restrainer is. I've seen one view that it is Michael the Archangel; another that it is the church which restains Satan, although it didn't seem to restrain Hitler and Stalin. But I'm more interested in the answers to my questions about the Holy Spirit as the Restrainer. There seem to be some inconsistencies and I can't make them fit.