Is there a double standard in Baptist Marriages ?

I thank that is why there is alot of devorce in marrage. They don't put God first. They did not put him first when they said I do. I believe that alot of men have alot to do spiritualy in the home of his family. He needs to tell his family that God comes first. I have told my wife before that God comes first before her and she understands that. I have told her that I would understand like wise if she felt that way. When things get bad I have told her to just trust in the lord. And God always gets us through that bad part. She don't pray to God like me and my little girls do. But I always pray that God will inlighten her that she is a sinner. Me and her don't beleive in devorce or remarrage. We believe God married us and it was till we die. From the good to the bad we know God married us and we trust he will lead this marrage till we die. And to my family that God has given me. Let the lord always lead us and guide us for with out him I can do nothing. For he is my all and all. Husbands love your wife as Christ loved the church and died for it. Give them your love as ye receaved from the father all the days of your life. Be good to them and thank God for them and they will be good to you. Teach them the word of God in his love and truth because they knew who you was before you found God and they see the change in you. And always everyday give God the glory for everthing in your life. amen

 

In my observation, it seems that often men are more willing to lead than women are willing to be led. While this doesn't excuse men from their responsibility, there is an imbalance in todays society toward women not being under the authority of a husband.

 

Double standard

In Eph 5, you will notice that before Paul states for the woman to submit to her husband, he likewise commands for them to submit to one another.

That is an often untaught and overlooked text and fact.

Bartimaeus

 

It is mostly men writing the books. :thumbs:

 

I think this is a major problem for men. While there is a societal aversion to a wife's submission, I believe that if men truly loved their wives as Christ loved the church, women would find submission much more rewarding.

 

I think what I meant to say was that in today's society, men trying to lead their wives is looked down upon and if a man tries to assert his authority, the woman has the court system to use as a club against her husband. The law does not uphold the mans authority in his own home, rather it will allow his wife to take his children from him and destroy his life. So it is understandable if men are a little timid when it comes to leading the home. Women need to be taught that it is right and proper for their husbands to lead them and that it is a beautiful picture of mans submission before God when she submits to her husband. But as I said, the risk doesn't alleviate the responsibility of the man to step up and lead his home.

 

One of the most glaring problems, IMHO, is that satan has almost totally destroyed the family relationship.
He has conned a bunch of (mostly) women into screaming bloody murder at the mention of "SUBMISSION" without even knowing the meaning of the word OR the context.
Yes, it has been misused by those %%# men who claim it simply for the authority it denotes, but rather than getting the true meaning out, the feminists have denigrated the whole concept.
I agree with Scarlett:

Although I don't think the feminist would even accept this as a prelude to the "dreaded" submission.

satan has done a masterful job in emasculating the image of the father, husband, brother, or any other male that does not yield to the feminist's demands of what a man should be. Witness the character of ALL fathers, husbands etc in modern commercials; they are depicted as nothing but bumbling oafs or a blob of beer-gut fat with the mentality of a 10 year old, or some such demeaning scenario. Any role of a male is childish, boorish, stupid or simply irrelavent in most ads, AND, from the little I've seen of them, most sit-coms.

Also the lack of responsibility that the Gloria Stienems of the world have instilled in the judicial system, in the name of freeing the female from her "submission" to men, has made the women bear a greater burden of the divorce culture.

Add to all this the convience of "after-the-fact" birth control, and the attendent problems that follow, and you have another burden added to the "emancipated" female.

Basically if folks would just read and follow the "MANFUCATURE'S HANDBOOK" for humans, most of these problems would be non-existant.

So satan has made a two prong main attack on the family, yes he has even made a three prong attack.
1 Destroy discipline in raising children (Dr. Spock)
2 Emancipate the female and make her envious of the fact that God designated MAN as the head of families
3 Assure that the man is emasculated as the female gets bolder.

As can be seen in society, his attacks have been very productive for his cause.

 

Scarlett O: I am usually impressed with your thoughtful, insightful, and biblical responses.

This may be, I think, the most beautiful, concise definition of a biblical marriage that I have ever seen articulated. My hat is off to you, lady.:applause:

peace to youraying:

 

:applause: Excellent post! No need to say anything more. I agree that this is the best definition of a Christian marriage I have seen yet. Ever thought about writing a book on the subject Scarlett? :thumbs:

 

Thank You

Scarlett...I as well wish to thank you for that beautiful definition of Marriage. I sent it on to my wife's email and to my Pastor as well. God Bless You Sister!!

In Christ,
Greg Perry Sr.

 

It is a woman's responsibility simply to carry out her responsibilities. When a woman decides to start evaluating whether someone, to which she is administratively subordinate, (or anyone for that matter who is administratively subordinate to another) is or is not fulfilling the responsibilities of their role you can bet one thing is for sure, she is no longer fulfilling hers by minding business that isn't hers.

 

I'm on the road to becoming an old woman and I can attest that there is a lot of wonderful truth in Scarlett's post. I have always felt cherished by my husband and in return I have always wanted to keep his home. We are so in-sync, it's hard to describe. We've had so many discussions here on the BB about the roles of husband and wife that I don't understand. I'm beginning think what I have is rare. I pray it's not, because it is what I want everyone to experience. There is no doubt my husband is head and I am his helpmate, but it has been a precious union. I have helped him and he has supported me in a multitude of ways.

 

First, we are not talking about a business, it's a marriage. "Administratively subordinate" is an unbiblical discription of the wife's role in the family.

Second, Christians are certainly encouraged to be concerned if other Christians are not living as they should. That is the reason Jesus gave us the principle of church discipline.

How much more, then, should husbands and wives be concerned for each other, should one appear to stumbling in the responsibilities. They are "one flesh". If one stumbles, the other is immediately effected.

peace to youraying:

 

Actually, a woman IS Administratively Subordinate and it is EXACTLY a Biblical Description. The woman is not personally subordinate, meaning her person is not subordinate but her ROLE...hence that is an ADMINISTRATIVE CONTEXT. Your belief that the word ADMINISTRATIVE refers to only a business context unfortunately leaves you unarmed in dealing with other contexts. My suggestion is you endeavor to enlighten yourself on the more broad use of the word.

Unfortunately you immediately depart from the context of marriage and enter into another context for the rest of your argument, hence an unwarranted point on your part and invalid for debate.

 

If I "enlighten" myself, will I start sounding as pompous and arrogant as you do?

I think I can find a better way to describe a wife than as an "administrative subordinate".

And yes, that is an "unbiblical" definition.

peace to youraying: