Is there anyone in Hell today?

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  1. Brian30755

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    I think it is safe to say that there is no one in Hell today. Nobody is there because Hell is the final place for those who have rejected Christ and is the place to which they are assigned after the Great White Throne Judgment. After the day of final judgment, then Hell receives its population.

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    Since hell is simply the grave, then there are billions of people there. If you're referring to the lake of fire, no one will be there for a while.
     
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    When Jesus returns to the earth, "First Resurrection", the "ANGEL REAPERS", gather all the "UNSAVED" and "Cast them into the "FIRE". (Wheat/Tares separation)

    Mt 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

    41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

    42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: (HELL) there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

    After which the "Mill Reign" will begin, Satan bound up, after which he is turned loose, then the GWT Judgement, those "IN HELL" are "Resurrected" "FROM HELL" to stand Judgment.

    Re 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

    Are there people "IN HELL" "TODAY", Certainly.
     
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    Brian, you should read your Bible. Try looking in Luke 16:23 "And in hell he lift up his eyes being in torments" Every person that has died without Christ is in hell now.
     
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    The parables of Matthew 13 deals only with saved people. We've just started as series on that in our evening Bible studies.

    "Hell" is just the grave. Jesus went to hell when he died. I certainly don't think he went to the lake of fire, where the lost will one day be sent.
     
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    Sheol and Hades is the grave. Certainly it leads to hell after death. Gehenna is hell.

    Luke 16:23 uses the word Hades.
     
  7. Brian30755

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    Okay, I'm confused. If "Hell" is simply the grave, then what is the place of eternal separation from God, the lake of fire, called?

    Also, don't you think most people are under the impression that Hell is the lake of fire where those who die without knowing Jesus as their savior will spend eternity?
     
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    The lake of fire is called "The Lake of Fire" - but in MAtt 10 it is called "fiery Hell".

    Other terms translated as the english word "Hell" (Hades and Sheol) are the grave.

    In Luke 16 all the saints live in Abraham's lap.

    Hopefully we are not going to that parable for Geography.

    In Christ,

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    The lake of fire is called the "lake of fire".

    Yes, most people are under the impression that the word "hell" refers to the lake of fire. That would be fine, except for all the other words, such as hades, sheol, and gehenna that are translated as (or considered as) hell. This creates a lot of confusion, and makes people think that parables are referring to lost people when they're not.

    If I'm teaching to a group that knows the difference between "hell" and the "lake of fire", I will often use the word "hell", because they know the difference. (I'm more likely to use the original words otherwis.) However, if I'm speaking to a group that doesn't know, I will specify "lake of fire" and remind them (or point out) that "hell" is not the "lake of fire".
     
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    The English translators of the Bible used the English word "hell" for three different Greek words - in the NT:


    hades (hell) - the grave

    gehenna (hell) - the firey place

    tartaroo (hell) - This word occurs only one time in the New Testament, 2 Peter 2:4, and is translated as “hell”. It seems to be a place of confindment.


    tartaroo is linked

    http://www.theopedia.com/Gehenna


    http://bibletools.org//index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.show/name/0504ra.htm

    [ December 24, 2005, 03:16 AM: Message edited by: wopik ]
     
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    Any and all who died without Jesus Christ as their personal Savior are in Hell right now.

    Sheol is from the Old Testament, which was before the New. Sheol is the grave, a holding place for the dead until Christ came (personal interpretation there).

    Hades = Gehenna = Tartaroo = Hell. Hell is not eternal, but rather a temporary repository for those who had not accepted Christ free offer.
    The lake of fire, on the other hand, IS eternal. No "POOF" and you're vaporized- never to suffer again. There is no reprieve. God's eternal justice calls for no less.

    In Christ,
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    If there is no one in burning in hell right now, Jesus's parable about Lazarus and the Rich Man is reduced to non-sense.

    Hell is real folks and it is poulated right now.
     
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    Born Again Catholic,

    You said, 'If there is no one in burning in hell right now, Jesus's parable about Lazarus and the Rich Man is reduced to non-sense.

    Hell is real folks and it is poulated right now.'

    [Quote} Yes, I agree with you! [/Quote].

    Rev. Berrian, Th.D.
     
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    Most likely, the rich man opened his eyes up when he was being resurrected out of his GRAVE (hades, hell).

    For Daniel (12:2) and Paul both say "the dead in Christ" are ASLEEP - EYES CLOSED.


    The rich man, in his GRAVE "lift up his eyes" (resurrection) and knew he was doomed to be thrown in to the lake of fire.


    HE SEES ABRAHAM........

    The rich man "lift up his EYES... and SEES Abraham. . ."
    even as Jesus warned the Pharisees, "You shall SEE Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom, and you yourselves cast out" ( Luke 13:28).

    That is the "great gulf" that exists between the rich man and Abraham.
     
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    Peter said: "He [David] seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left IN HELL, neither his flesh did see corruption" (Acts 2:31).

    Jesus, too, died and was buried. And in "hell" - the grave - He too lifted up His eyes — when He was resurrected!
     
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    How does the rich man see from a box, a coffin, in the grave, Lazarus, and from that box feel the torment of those flames such that he cries out to Abraham: "Send Lazarus that he may cool the tip of my tongue with water; for I am tormented in this flame." All that from a box in the grave in the earth?? :rolleyes:
    The resurrection had not, and still has not happened. This has notthing to do with the resurrection. His eyes are very much open, and he is very musch alive--being tormented in this flame, as he will be forevermore, just as Jesus said he would. The word "sleep" is simply another word for death.

    Paul was rebuking the Corinthians for abusing the Lord's Table. What did he say to them in 1Cor.11:30?
    "For this cause many among you are sick and weak, and many of you sleep!
    Sleep is death.
    Jesus said to his disciples concerning Lazarus, knowing that Lazarus had died: "Lazarus sleeps." Then he plainly told them that Lazarus was dead.
    He went to raise the dead, the one who "was asleep."

    Hell still exists. Paradise doesn't. Jesus led those "held captive in paradise" free when he rose from the dead. But Hell still exists. In Rev.20, it tells us that Hell will be cast into the Lake of Fire. That will be the final sentence of the unsaved. Hell is a temporary suffering place of those that reject Christ. Yet it is still a place of torment as described by the rich man. It one day will be thrown into the Lake of Fire, not much different in nature.
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    DHK,

    Thank the Lord that finally, I read a post that you wrote that I agree with 100%. See, I am not an obstreperous older man.

    Merry Christmas in Canada to my Christian brother and his family.

    "Ray"
     
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    So you admit that the saints who are "the dead in Christ" are in fact "asleep"??

    That is pretty interesting.

    It must be "Christmas"

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
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    It would be nice to find a quote saying that those "in paradise were set free" or "Saints were captive in paradise" or ...

    Hades - Sheol (The Grave) still exists - no doubt about that.

    David went there --

    According to Acts 2 - he is still there.

    In Christ,

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    No, I didn't say that. And you know I didn't.
    I never said that the dead were sleeping in the sense that the SDA's believe it to be.
    Sleep and death are used synonymously in these verses that I quoted to mean death, not sleep. The meaning is death. Sleep means death, not the other way around. The emphasis is on the death.
    Death is separation.

    James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead,
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