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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Yeshua1, Jan 18, 2014.
valid one or not?
The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. 18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice. Phil 1:17-18
Paul seemed to be pleased the gospel was preached, even if not entirely with all their ducks in a row. So I'll go with Paul
What gave it away? Queer theology as a doctrinal standard?
Is a "church" that supports murderers a valid church? Or one that supports rapists, pedophiles, liars, thieves, adulterers?
These people have created God in their own image.
:laugh::laugh::thumbsup: thank you.
Least they didn't use "gay":laugh:
Why would you even ask this question? :BangHead:
The pendulum has swung too far with the Metropolitan Community Church.
On the one side, Fringe Fundamentalists who believe that behavior such as homosexuality and drunkenness will keep someone from the gates of heaven. All the while reveling in God dishonoring lifestyles such as gluttony when they fawn over their potluck dinners and joke about getting fat. Political jockeying at conventions, legalistic tendencies, bickering and spite, backbiting and gossip. Hypocrisy running rampant, always wanting to remove the speck in someone else's eye before removing the log in their own. Unfortunately, this is the earmark of most Baptist churches I've been in.
On the other side, open acceptance of a God dishonoring sexual lifestyle, and a social gospel that amounts to little more than hope in this world.
Which is more apostate? I wouldn't pretend to know
"Which" is not the subject of this thread. The OP specifically referred to the "church" in the link. That is the topic.
And that's why I don't like these churches....they eat their young, bless their canabalistic hearts. This onethat Y is referencing is hedonistic.
I'm fully aware of the thread topic. I just wanted to inject a little food for thought before all of the Fringe Fundamentalist hypocrites come crawling out of the woodwork, hurling accusations.
What I See When you Say MCC!
While its members [the MCC] may or may not be sheep in the true Biblical sense, this is what I think of when you mention this particular brand of lies. This is one more reason that the road to hell and destruction is wide and heavily traveled...
Well meaning, good people are being lied to, and they will not know what hit them until they leave this place!
For me, this is so sad :tear:
The MCC is the epitome of the EMERGENT Church movement!
One can be saved by grace of God and still have 'sin issues", but NOT saved by the Lord and have NO desire/conviction to change their life style, to still be doing "business as usual" , they are NOT walking as "in Christ!"
Would the Apostles be of that fringe group, as they all adressed how one has a new life in christ, with some evidence of being changed by His grace!
What do you believe? My opinion is that same as EWF and padredurand!
Very well said!
The Church is the Body of Believers. Perhaps a better question would be is the Metropolitan Community Church a Body of Believers?
I think there might be Believer sin Christ within, but as a whole, this "church" represents a body of believers of lies.
It saddens me that people are so looking to be loved and accepted that they would flock to THIS over what the true Church is putting forth.
It also calls into question what exactly is the Church putting forth that's sending so many, and not just the homosexual offenders, to look for what their itching ears perceive to be love some place other than God's people?
Has the wickedness in the church grown to such a level that the love of many within the church has grown cold to the point that the church now wreaks of something other than the love of Christ?
I believe that those in the TRUE Church must always look at self first and what we are doing within the church that may be hindering the true Gospel reaching these people.
I would suspct that MANY within that 'church" would have been exposed tot he truth of the Bible, that while God loves them, jesus died for them, and by His grace he saved them, they balked at the part of also being told to stop doing that behaviour, and left to find a place willingly to show them 'true love of Jesus", by accepting them and enabling them to keep on sinning while climing saved!